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Here is an article I read today on the internet. It reminded me of a story by
Philip K Dick called "Frozen Journey" (Playboy Dec 1980), about a space
traveller whose suspended animation equipment malfunctions and he has to remain
conscious for the entire voyage..............It made me think when I read it
then........and it makes me think now.....what a writer he was.......this is a
nightmarish thought !!!!!

Ian


A man injured in a car crash lay paralysed in a hospital bed for 23 years
diagnosed as being in a coma, but was conscious of his ordeal the whole time.

Rom Houben was paralysed as a result of his accident and had no way of alerting
doctors that he was aware of his surroundings and able to hear every word they
were saying.

Doctors in Zolder in Belgium carried out a number of tests on Houben, and
decided that his consciousness was 'extinct' and he was in a persistent
vegetative state.

On every occasion, he was diagnosed incorrectly and Mr Houben was left to suffer
in silence for over two decades.

Now 46, Houben said 'I dreamed myself away,' adding that 'I screamed, but there
was nothing to hear'.

'I became a witness to my own suffering as doctors and nurses tried to speak
with me until they gave up all hope.'

The arrival of new high-tech scanners found that Houben's brain was functioning
normally, and therapy has since allowed him to tap out messages on a computer
screen and to read books whilst lying down.

'I shall never forget the day when they discovered what was truly wrong with me
– it was my second birth,' said Houben, 'All that time I just literally dreamed
of a better life. Frustration is too small a word to describe what I felt'.

Mr Houben's case has re-ignited controversy over whether those in a persistent
vegetative state should be allowed to die.

Houben is now recovering in a specialist unit near Brussels.

#64875

From: "Jeffrey" <jpmotis@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: FINLAND World's Largest Sauna to Appear on Finnish-Swedish Border

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Add molten lava bursting through the floor during the ribbon cutting, and you
have another SyFy classic.

JP

--- In sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com, <marco_pertoni@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> World's Largest Sauna to Appear on Finnish-Swedish Border
> published Nov 4 07:32 PM, updated Nov 4 07:44 PM
>
>
> Plans for the world's largest sauna
>
> Image: Cape East
>
> 1137120
> The world's largest sauna is being built in Haparanda, in northern Sweden.
Developers of the hotel-spa complex hope to attract more tourists to the area.
Haparanda shares a border with Tornio, in Finnish Lapland.
>
> Work on the hotel began on Wednesday. The entire complex is expected to be
finished by next June.
>
> "There are already many interesting attractions in this area. We have an Ikea
store, which draws two million visitors a year. We also have a large shopping
centre. But those attractions are for day visits. Now we hope to entice people
here for the whole weekend," says Kristiina Lampinen, the director of the hotel.
>
> She adds that developers plan to market the hotel-spa complex globally.
However, they will initially try to appeal to tourists in Sweden and Finland.
Lampinen says she believes visitors from further away will be interested as
well.
>
> "We have something that can't be found just anywhere. Of course, we have the
nature here with the midnight sun in the summer and then the charm of our
winters."
>
> The five million euro investment is expected to create about 50 jobs in the
area.
>
> YLE
>
>
>
>
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/11/worlds_largest_sauna_to_appear_on_finnish\
-swedish_border_1137120.html
>
>
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#64874

From: <marco_pertoni@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:07 pm
Subject: FINLAND World's Largest Sauna to Appear on Finnish-Swedish Border

marco_pertoni

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World's Largest Sauna to Appear on Finnish-Swedish Border
published Nov 4 07:32 PM, updated Nov 4 07:44 PM


Plans for the world's largest sauna

Image: Cape East

1137120
The world’s largest sauna is being built in Haparanda, in northern Sweden.
Developers of the hotel-spa complex hope to attract more tourists to the area.
Haparanda shares a border with Tornio, in Finnish Lapland.

Work on the hotel began on Wednesday. The entire complex is expected to be
finished by next June.

”There are already many interesting attractions in this area. We have an Ikea
store, which draws two million visitors a year. We also have a large shopping
centre. But those attractions are for day visits. Now we hope to entice people
here for the whole weekend,” says Kristiina Lampinen, the director of the hotel.

She adds that developers plan to market the hotel-spa complex globally. However,
they will initially try to appeal to tourists in Sweden and Finland. Lampinen
says she believes visitors from further away will be interested as well.

”We have something that can’t be found just anywhere. Of course, we have the
nature here with the midnight sun in the summer and then the charm of our
winters.”

The five million euro investment is expected to create about 50 jobs in the
area.

YLE



http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/11/worlds_largest_sauna_to_appear_on_finnish\
-swedish_border_1137120.html


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#64873

From: "Jan LaFata" <janlafata@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:40 pm
Subject: SciFi News for 11-23-09

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Review on last weeks "V" episode:
http://www.airlockalpha.com/feature/6908/v-a-bright-new-day.html

"Caprica" news:
http://www.airlockalpha.com/news/6892/caprica-change-at-top-was-espensons-idea.h\
tml

"Avatar" isn't finished yet?:
http://io9.com/5409986/avatar-isnt-finished-yet

New "Avatar" images:
http://io9.com/5410045/new-avatar-promo-every-living-thing-wants-to-kill-you

11 Most patriotic SciFi moments;
http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/10-most-patriotic-sci-fi.php

Jan

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#64872

From: Russell Parkhurstt <parkhursttr@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] Space Cat in L.A.

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Interspecies dating?!?!? Isn't there something in Deuteronomy against that?!?

(lol)

Russ

--- On Sun, 11/22/09, space_cat_zero <spacecat.zero@...> wrote:

From: space_cat_zero <spacecat.zero@...>
Subject: [science-fiction] Space Cat in L.A.
To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 11:05 PM

Â 

       Digging out Dug the Dog's translation collar again...

OK... After much thought, I'd like to meet the infamous Janice when I go back to
L.A. in December...

Yeah, I know she probably thinks I'm some strange whacked-out freak, but I'm
really a (fairly) "gud kitteh"...

All I know is that she and I seem to have a LOT in common (including being
"solitary" types)... And, NO, I won't force-feed ya crack or anything... LOL...

All I know is that she's intelligent, very well-informed about SF, and we seem
to have a lot in common...

So... How about it?

(Oh, God, I hope she's not married!)... I just think that a lunch date between
Space Cat and Janice could be really... "interesting" ...

:-P

Space Cat

If not interested, that's cool.... Us kittehs (oops, lost the Dug's collar)...

Weez is hopefulls to meetz deh grand-mistress of deh SF Group... Janice deh
Dizzheart...

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#64871

From: "Jeffrey" <jpmotis@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:46 am
Subject: Golden Age Heroes coming to Smallville.

jpmotis

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Smallville will be presenting an ode to the Golden Age of comics with what
they're calling a 2 hour movie event. It's current title is Absolute Justice.
Indications are this story will expand the scope of the show with the
introduction of a multigenerational factor. Initially the series was to be the
history of the growth and developement of Superman. As the show progressed, they
added the existant of the superhuman community. Later they layed the ground work
for future story elements such as the Justice League. Absolute Justice grew out
of a 2 episode story arc originally called Society and Legends. As is
traditional with the genre, one generation passing the torch to the next is a
pivotal point. Hopes are running high that this story will be worthy of the
material's 69 year history. The trailer for the episode has been posted on You
Tube and linked on News Arama.

http://www.newsarama.com/tv/091121-Smallville-Absolute-Justice.html

Speculation

It appears they are using the ominous threat leading to discovering a well kept
secret story element. Descendents and survivors of the legendary Justice Society
of America come together to face the threat. Eventually they are forced to join
with a new generation of heroes. Introductions and a flash back history ensues
reminisent of production sequenques used in the Birds of Prey series. Press
releases have indicated that Dr Fate, Stargirl, and a 90's style Hawkman will be
main characters. The trailer brings glimses of a golden age Green Lantern's
ring, the Sandman, and a golden age Dr Fate to the tail. Added to that a portait
of the current original JSA roster and you see the possibility of character
waxing very poetic about their pasts.

Personally I'm having mixed feelling on this production. The golden age heroes
have always been a favorite of mine. Their stories were more fantastical then
the later incarnations, but heroes in stories should be larger then life. You
explain away everything and make them too human, and they loose their
inspirational value. So they have problems paying the rent or get dumped by
their steady lets you relate. Having 6 kids and not paying child support to any
of their mothers, or skimming off recovered stolen money to fund your cocaine
habit, just doesn't seem heroic. Putting the old in a supositely modern context
is not always the best context.

JP

#64870

From: David Major <dminoz@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:07 am
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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I think you're right, Spongebob is the "innocent", just like Mr Crab is
the conniving, worldly-wise one, and Squidward is the would-be
intellectual. Sandy's role, because she's from the outside, and because
she's the one who exhibits some common sense (well, sometimes...), is
interesting. All the characters are snapshots of mental/emotional
states, which is what makes the show so good, and gives it the depth
that a lot of adults can see.

Mithril1960 wrote:
>
>
> Dude, you have spongebob totally wrong. you are reading far too much
> into it. sponge and pat are innocents, not mental defectives. yes, pat
> can be a moron, but hes the sidekick & like other sidekicks is there
> for humor. you really need to relax a bit.
>
>

>

#64869

From: "Jeffrey" <jpmotis@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:46 am
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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Or some people are too forgiving. I still let the kids be kids and don't tell
opther not to watch. I stick to the Ritz Brothers, Abbot and Costello, or the
Marx brothers were the satire is clearer.

JP

--- In sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960 <rhob1960@...> wrote:
>
> Dude, you have spongebob totally wrong. you are reading far too much into it.
sponge and pat are innocents, not mental defectives. yes, pat can be a moron,
but hes the sidekick & like other sidekicks is there for humor. you really need
to relax a bit.
>

#64868

From: Mithril1960 <rhob1960@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:45 am
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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Dude, you have spongebob totally wrong. you are reading far too much into it.
sponge and pat are innocents, not mental defectives. yes, pat can be a moron,
but hes the sidekick & like other sidekicks is there for humor. you really need
to relax a bit.

Jeffrey wrote:
> When my neices and nephews watch it I'll sit with them and go along with the
story because they are children. I can see where other can disconnect the
situations from reality and enjoy the asurdity of it. For myself it just seems
to be making fun of people that are mentally deficenct. That may or may not be
their intent, yet that is how I perceive it. I can easily enjoy the down fall of
an egomaniacal, power hungry, maniac, but the equivilent of a person with Down
Sydrome not being able to tie their shoes, just isn't my thing.
> JP
> --- In sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com, "depth3d" <depth3d@...> wrote:
>>
>> Watching Spongebob with my 10 year old, he has often looked at me with pity
as I weep, helpless with laughter. This works, as does Fairly, on so many levels
that I feel sorry for the adults who miss out on this stuff as they're
completely unaware of its existence as they don't have kids.
>>
>> I agree with the kids being made to think about what they are seeing and
laughing at. My son will query a scenario and I, trying to get myself together,
will hiccup a few times, in an effort to control my mirth long enough to give my
take on the story. Beats the c__p out of Disney (although I love Wall-e to bits)
>>
>> To my shame, I've never looked at the names of the Sponge/Fairly script/story
writers, but they are heros.
>>
>> depth3d
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#64867

From: "Jeffrey" <jpmotis@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

jpmotis

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When my neices and nephews watch it I'll sit with them and go along with the
story because they are children. I can see where other can disconnect the
situations from reality and enjoy the asurdity of it. For myself it just seems
to be making fun of people that are mentally deficenct. That may or may not be
their intent, yet that is how I perceive it. I can easily enjoy the down fall of
an egomaniacal, power hungry, maniac, but the equivilent of a person with Down
Sydrome not being able to tie their shoes, just isn't my thing.

JP

--- In sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com, "depth3d" <depth3d@...> wrote:
>
> Watching Spongebob with my 10 year old, he has often looked at me with pity as
I weep, helpless with laughter. This works, as does Fairly, on so many levels
that I feel sorry for the adults who miss out on this stuff as they're
completely unaware of its existence as they don't have kids.
>
> I agree with the kids being made to think about what they are seeing and
laughing at. My son will query a scenario and I, trying to get myself together,
will hiccup a few times, in an effort to control my mirth long enough to give my
take on the story. Beats the c__p out of Disney (although I love Wall-e to bits)
>
> To my shame, I've never looked at the names of the Sponge/Fairly script/story
writers, but they are heros.
>
> depth3d
>

#64866

From: dizzheart@...
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: Michael Moorcock

dizzheart

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Michael Moorcock general catchup & on writing a new Doctor  Who novel

_Author,  author: Michael Moorcock | Books | The Guardian_
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/nov/21/michael-moorcock-doctor-who-author)


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#64865

From: "space_cat_zero" <spacecat.zero@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:05 pm
Subject: Space Cat in L.A.

space_cat_zero

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Digging out Dug the Dog's translation collar again...

OK... After much thought, I'd like to meet the infamous Janice when I go back to
L.A. in December...

Yeah, I know she probably thinks I'm some strange whacked-out freak, but I'm
really a (fairly) "gud kitteh"...

All I know is that she and I seem to have a LOT in common (including being
"solitary" types)... And, NO, I won't force-feed ya crack or anything... LOL...

All I know is that she's intelligent, very well-informed about SF, and we seem
to have a lot in common...

So... How about it?

(Oh, God, I hope she's not married!)... I just think that a lunch date between
Space Cat and Janice could be really... "interesting"...

:-P

Space Cat

If not interested, that's cool.... Us kittehs (oops, lost the Dug's collar)...

Weez is hopefulls to meetz deh grand-mistress of deh SF Group... Janice deh
Dizzheart...

#64864

From: "space_cat_zero" <spacecat.zero@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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Weez thinks that "UP" is probably one of deh BEST animated films ever made!

Excepts that weez would likes a Cat instead of Doggie...  :-)

Space Cat

--- In sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960 <rhob1960@...> wrote:
>
> I didn't care for Wall-E either. That voice, that damned annoying voice... I
liked Up and Ponyo much more. I agree with you John, that movie goes on my
Shymalan list.
>
>
> --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Depth 3D - Patrick Smith <depth3d@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Depth 3D - Patrick Smith <depth3d@...>
> > Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults
> > To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 4:02 PM
> > Noooooo!
> >  
> > What was not to like? The lighting, especially, was just
> > incredible (speaking as a 3D modeller) but, dude! how can
> > you not enjoy something which is so simply good? Ok, I give
> > you that it got a little rubbery once the little tin guy got
> > on board the Axiom, but the earth scenes - lay it upon me
> > brother.  
> >  
> > Three viewings to date and looking forward to whomping it
> > into the ole player again soon although my wife takes the
> > same view as you. She'd be quite happy if she never saw it
> > again too.
> >
> > depth3d
> > --- On Sun, 22/11/09, John Leister <aviannix37@...>
> > wrote:

#64863

From: Mithril1960 <rhob1960@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

rhob1960

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I didn't care for Wall-E either. That voice, that damned annoying voice... I
liked Up and Ponyo much more. I agree with you John, that movie goes on my
Shymalan list.


--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Depth 3D - Patrick Smith <depth3d@...> wrote:

> From: Depth 3D - Patrick Smith <depth3d@...>
> Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults
> To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 4:02 PM
> Noooooo!
>  
> What was not to like? The lighting, especially, was just
> incredible (speaking as a 3D modeller) but, dude! how can
> you not enjoy something which is so simply good? Ok, I give
> you that it got a little rubbery once the little tin guy got
> on board the Axiom, but the earth scenes - lay it upon me
> brother.  
>  
> Three viewings to date and looking forward to whomping it
> into the ole player again soon although my wife takes the
> same view as you. She'd be quite happy if she never saw it
> again too.
>
> depth3d
> --- On Sun, 22/11/09, John Leister <aviannix37@...>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Leister <aviannix37@...>
> Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults
> To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 20:25
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> depth3d wrote:
> > Beats the c__p out of Disney (although I love Wall-e
> to bits)
>
> Speaking of Wall-E it's the only movie I have ever watched
> once and
> vowed never to watch again.... I just couldn't bring myself
> to give it a
> repeat viewing.
>
> John
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#64862

From: Depth 3D - Patrick Smith <depth3d@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

depth3d

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Noooooo!
Â 
What was not to like? The lighting, especially, was just incredible (speaking as
a 3D modeller) but, dude! how can you not enjoy something which is so simply
good? Ok, I give you that it got a little rubbery once the little tin guy got on
board the Axiom, but the earth scenes - lay it upon me brother. Â 
Â 
Three viewings to date andÂ looking forwardÂ to whomping it into the ole player
again soon although my wife takes the same view as you. She'd beÂ quite happy if
she never saw it again too.

depth3d
--- On Sun, 22/11/09, John Leister <aviannix37@...> wrote:


From: John Leister <aviannix37@...>
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults
To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 20:25


Â 



depth3d wrote:
> Beats the c__p out of Disney (although I love Wall-e to bits)

Speaking of Wall-E it's the only movie I have ever watched once and
vowed never to watch again.... I just couldn't bring myself to give it a
repeat viewing.

John
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#64861

From: John Leister <aviannix37@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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depth3d wrote:
> Beats the c__p out of Disney (although I love Wall-e to bits)






Speaking of Wall-E   it's the only movie I have ever watched once and
vowed never to watch again.... I just couldn't bring myself to give it a
repeat viewing.













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#64860

From: "depth3d" <depth3d@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

depth3d

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Watching Spongebob with my 10 year old, he has often looked at me with pity as I
weep, helpless with laughter. This works, as does Fairly, on so many levels that
I feel sorry for the adults who miss out on this stuff as they're completely
unaware of its existence as they don't have kids.

I agree with the kids being made to think about what they are seeing and
laughing at. My son will query a scenario and I, trying to get myself together,
will hiccup a few times, in an effort to control my mirth long enough to give my
take on the story. Beats the c__p out of Disney (although I love Wall-e to bits)

To my shame, I've never looked at the names of the Sponge/Fairly script/story
writers, but they are heros.

depth3d

--- In sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960 <rhob1960@...> wrote:
>
> That's what I like about Nicktoons like Fairly and Sponge. They're frakking
subversive. They don't only make kids laugh, they make kids think to. Disney is
just mental pap.
>
>
> --- On Sun, 11/22/09, John Leister <aviannix37@...> wrote:
>
> > From: John Leister <aviannix37@...>
> > Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults
> > To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:34 AM
> > Mithril1960 wrote:
> > > Disney is so caught up in their disney formula that
> > most of their movies aren't worth watching. Nickelodeon has
> > good stuff like Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents that parents
> > can watch with their children. The Forever War (and
> > virtually anything by Joe Haldeman) have always been among
> > my favorite books.
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> > A lot of the gags in that are not really for kids if you
> > listen closely
> > to them.... That's why this show rocks for grown ups too.
> >
> > Gotta love little Timmy.
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#64859

From: "depth3d" <depth3d@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:05 pm
Subject: Star Trek - DVD

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Just got my copy. £8.00 from Morrisons! I've yet to find it cheaper anywhere
else.

Damn, but it's a good movie, having watched it again. Roll on the next
instalment.

depth3d

#64858

From: Mithril1960 <rhob1960@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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That's what I like about Nicktoons like Fairly and Sponge. They're frakking
subversive. They don't only make kids laugh, they make kids think to. Disney is
just mental pap.


--- On Sun, 11/22/09, John Leister <aviannix37@...> wrote:

> From: John Leister <aviannix37@...>
> Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults
> To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:34 AM
> Mithril1960 wrote:
> > Disney is so caught up in their disney formula that
> most of their movies aren't worth watching. Nickelodeon has
> good stuff like Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents that parents
> can watch with their children. The Forever War (and
> virtually anything by Joe Haldeman) have always been among
> my favorite books.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ooh I lvoe Fairly Oddparents   
>
> A lot of the gags in that are not really for kids if you
> listen closely
> to them.... That's why this show rocks for grown ups too.
>
> Gotta love little Timmy.
>
> And even The Doctor used a clip of this show to antoganise
> the Sontarans
> so it has "universal appeal" lol
>
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#64857

From: John Leister <aviannix37@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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Mithril1960 wrote:
> Disney is so caught up in their disney formula that most of their movies
aren't worth watching. Nickelodeon has good stuff like Spongebob and Fairly
Oddparents that parents can watch with their children. The Forever War (and
virtually anything by Joe Haldeman) have always been among my favorite books.








Ooh I lvoe Fairly Oddparents

A lot of the gags in that are not really for kids if you listen closely
to them.... That's why this show rocks for grown ups too.

Gotta love little Timmy.

And even The Doctor used a clip of this show to antoganise the Sontarans
so it has "universal appeal" lol



















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#64856

From: Mithril1960 <rhob1960@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults

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Disney is so caught up in their disney formula that most of their movies aren't
worth watching. Nickelodeon has good stuff like Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents
that parents can watch with their children. The Forever War (and virtually
anything by Joe Haldeman) have always been among my favorite books.


--- On Sat, 11/21/09, David Major <dminoz@...> wrote:

> From: David Major <dminoz@...>
> Subject: Re: [science-fiction] adults
> To: sciencefictiongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 11:58 PM
> Well, I'm 52, and I'm finding that my
> appetite for surrealist,
> ridiculous, smart, out-there SF and fantasy is getting
> stronger if
> anything. I think it's because as I get older, I realise
> with more and
> more certainty that the mainstream news and business shows,
> and
> especially the 'reality' rubbish, is just that -- rubbish.
> The stuff my
> kids watch makes my jaw drop on account of its mind-numbing
> stupidity.
> The people behind the Disney channel should be charged with
> some crime
> against the human intellect. Give me the product of a
> healthy and
> inquisitive imagination, any day. I've just finished
> listening to the
> audiobook version of Joe Haldemann's "Forever War". Great
> stuff. I don't
> care how old it is, or how old I am.
>
> David
>
> daru3@...
> wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering, do many of you sci fi & fantasy
> lovers feel your not as
> > grown up as you should be? Do you feel that you should
> be reading more
> > mature
> > books (and I don't mean sexual), besides sf&f? You
> aught to be
> > stricter and
> > tougher on your kids? Your TV should be restricted to
> news and business
> > shows? Other signs of true "maturity"? Like your not
> the man or woman
> > your
> > parents were?
> >
> > It's part of the way I feel, remembering my mother
> yelling at me
> > "you're XX
> > years old and you're still reading/watching that
> kiddie stuff!"
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#64855

From: "space_cat_zero" <spacecat.zero@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] 2012

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Weez has borrows Dug deh Doggie's translation collar furr dis postie:

I was born in Glendale in 1952. Moved to the SF Valley soon after, where I lived
until 2001 when I moved to Virginia. Lived through the big Earthquakes of 1971
and 1994 (lost my home in that one)... Used to love the wonderful beaches and
weather, did a lot of Scuba diving off Catalina Island. Loved being close to the
High Sierra's (nothing like that here, biggest mountain in VA has an elevation
of only 5,000 feet)... Loved the Mojave Desert (visited a Star Trek set at
Vasquez Rocks where they filmed "Arena")... My entire family still lives there,
which is why I'm making a visit soon. Parents are getting old and not in good
health, and it'll be fun to see my brother, sister, nieces and nephews...

L.A. has gotten so crowded and the smog keeps the sky a dirty brown. There are
gangs and gunshots in almost every neighborhood at night. Traffic is horrendous.
I made the move to VA because at that time in my life, I really needed a change
from my previous life. I remember when the 405 Freeway was being built, and when
Sepulveda Blvd. was the only road from the Valley to Downtown.

Now, I get snow in the winter, blue skies all the time with fresh clean air, and
wide open spaces... and yes, there are crack dealers even in the small town of
Winchester where I live... but I left L.A. to start a new life after a few too
many personal events all happened at once... Do I regret moving? Sometimes...
and I may at some time even move again when a certain job opens in St. Louis (I
was offered a job as Co-Curator of the Museum of Pulp History when it finally
opens)...

Yes, I've slinked through alleyways at times in the past, but have also seen the
beauty of the city... and if I were a crack-head, sure I could tell you exactly
where to find it... but I'm a good kitty now!

Space Cat

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>
>
> In a message dated 11/21/2009 2:36:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> pjnoakes@... writes:
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> You'd have to ask somebody who lives in LA that question! I'm a  Washington
> State native and resident. I've been to LA several times, but I  have no
> desire at all to live there!  >>
>
>
>
> People looking for crack cocaine can find that  anywhere, even in the
> nicest neighborhoods :)
>
> People not looking for it still find LA a great  place to live.
>
> SpaceCat apparently has been slinking thru the  alleyways in the bad parts
> of town that every town in the world has, since he  seems to know exactly
> where to find what he seeks.
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#64854

From: John Leister <aviannix37@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [science-fiction] What is the world coming to? Twilight action figures GTHOH

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