THIS DIVIDED STATE. Have you all heard about this? It's a documentary about
Michael
Moore's controversial visit to the "red" state of Utah 2 weeks before the 2004
election.
Mormons went kinda crazy and tried to prevent him from speaking. The film itself
is pretty
riveting and, at times, scary.

Check it out here: www.thisdividedstate.com

best, steve

Hi all.  Please respond to me if you're interested in getting out the
vote in WI with
Driving Votes!

Kendra Salois
kendra@...
in Chicago: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChicagoDV/
www.drivingvotes.org/
Help America Change Gears.

--- In chicagoDV@yahoogroups.com, Anna Parnes <aparnes@g...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

For the most important push of the election season, Chicago Driving
Votes will be headed to Wisconsin for 4 days before the election and
election day!  Wisconsin is predicted to be the tightest race in the
Midwest and I urge you to join us for as many of these days as you can
to help get out the vote!

Please reserve as much of this time off from work or other commitments
so we can send a small army to help make sure Wisconsin goes blue!
Election day is the most crucial day, and all other days are extremely
important too.

**In order to be sure that we can arrange for housing and other
details, please let me know this week which days you can make it,
whether you would need housing, and if you can drive.***

Also, to prepare for these important days, America Votes is putting on
a training on Thursday October 14th from 6-9pm for those who want to
volunteer on election day!  Please let me know if you can make it.
Its at UNITE HERE Offices
Chicago & Midwest Region
333 South Ashland Ave., Chicago
(corner of Ashland & Van Buren, right off the Eisenhower (290),
Ashland/Paulina exit)

Thank you!  I look forward to hearing from you.

How do I get written permssion to show the F911 DVD at our local
playhouse?

Hello all,

I was at the NYC Protest yesterday and got a lot of footage, I put together a
cut of the
protests here:

http://riggedproductions.com/mov/nyc_protest_roughcut.mov

Please by all means get back to me with any critique on the video at
Bobby@....  I'll have a polished cut in a few days.  A lot of
interesting
things to see in it.

Thanks,
Bobby

--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, "TJ Mathews" <tjm4@m...> wrote:
> Is this list still active? Mighty quiet right now.
> Any date on the DVD release?

This group is a companion community to the Fahrenheit 911 Blog
(http://f911.blogspot.com) and is very active. Stories are posted
daily.

If there is anyone interested in contributing to the RSS syndicated
blog, let me know.

The Fahrenheit 911 DVD will be release on October 5th. For more
information, see:

http://f911.blogspot.com/2004/08/amazoncom-fahrenheit-911-dvd.html

Is this list still active? Mighty quiet right now.
Any date on the DVD release?

tj

Thanks Jack!

Who is this Bill O'Reilly? What a jerk! Okok I've heard about him but
I don't have a tv to suffer him with. Can we buy him a one-way ticket
to Faluja?

tj




--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Olmted" <j_olmsted@y...> wrote:
> A Multimedia Folder was just created for Michael Moore video, audio
> and transcripts available online.
>
> If you know of something that is not on the list, please add it.
>
> BTW: The Bill Maher show will be re-broadcast again Monday on HBO
at
> 1:00am. If you know of an upcoming Michael Moore appearance, please
> add it to the calendar.

That was a great show/appearance.  Almost the entire thing revolved around
the movie, one way or another.  Ralph Nader was also a guest on that show.
I was expecting fireworks, but there were none.

My Tivo told me Mike was a guest on the show "The Best Damn Sports Show
Period" Friday night, which airs on the Fox Sports networks.  For some
reason, it didn't record it.  I scolded my Tivo, and am having it record the
repeats.  As of now, it doesn't list who the guests are for those repeats,
so I'm kinda doing it blindly here.  Also the show runs at different times
nationwide...

-Dan

In a message dated 8/1/04 9:51 AM, Jack Olmted wrote:

> BTW: The Bill Maher show will be re-broadcast again Monday on HBO at
> 1:00am. If you know of an upcoming Michael Moore appearance, please
> add it to the calendar.

A Multimedia Folder was just created for Michael Moore video, audio
and transcripts available online.

If you know of something that is not on the list, please add it.

BTW: The Bill Maher show will be re-broadcast again Monday on HBO at
1:00am. If you know of an upcoming Michael Moore appearance, please
add it to the calendar.

Oh - forgot to mention.  I heard that Mike will be appearing on Bill Maher's
show on HBO Friday night...

-Dan

In a message dated 7/29/04 11:18 AM, Santa Dog wrote:

> I keep missing Moore's TV appearances.  I just joined this list, so I didn't
> see the last message about O'Reily and Nightline.  (Luckily I was able to
> download an MPEG of O'Reily.)
>
> My question - where's the best place to find out about Mike's upcoming TV
> appearances?
>
> I have Tivo, and have it search for Moore, but it doesn't catch everything.  I
> check Mike's website, but it is often not updated (especially the "Mike's
> Appearances" section).  I subscribe to Mike's email list, but the emails are
> few, and he doesn't seem to notify us about all his upcoming appearances that
> way.
>
> It's very frustrating.
>
>
>
> -Dan

I keep missing Moore's TV appearances.  I just joined this list, so I didn't
see the last message about O'Reily and Nightline.  (Luckily I was able to
download an MPEG of O'Reily.)

My question - where's the best place to find out about Mike's upcoming TV
appearances?

I have Tivo, and have it search for Moore, but it doesn't catch everything.
I check Mike's website, but it is often not updated (especially the "Mike's
Appearances" section).  I subscribe to Mike's email list, but the emails are
few, and he doesn't seem to notify us about all his upcoming appearances
that way.

It's very frustrating.



-Dan

The Fox News Channel The O'Reilly Factor 8 & 1a.m. ET

ABC Nightline  with Ted Koppel (11:35 PM ET)
CNN  Larry King Live  (11:55 PM ET)

See video interview clip of Michael and Bill O'Reilly at:

http://f911.blogspot.com

typically Moore doesnt release soundtracks for any of his films,
going way back to Roger and Me.  I think he does this becase if he
did release a soundtrack it would be looked upon as him trying to
make a profit or capitalizing on the successof his film for
himself.  I suggest that if you want your own soundtrack, find a
list of the songs and download em.  Or better yet go out and buy
cd's from those artists who were cool enoughto let Mike use their
music in the movie.

--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, "mikestratfordshaw" <just.mike@s...>
wrote:
> I can't get the music out of my head.  The soundtrack has not been
> released.  There is a partial song list at:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/soundtrack
>
> Does anyone else know of a more comprehensive list?
>
> Does anyone know if Moore intends to release the soundtrack on CD?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

Alan,

As another leftist Canadian, I share your frustration in being so
affected by the U.S. but having no direct voice in presidential
elections.  I am however grateful for the courageous work of Michael
Moore.  (I'm surprised he hasn't had some sort of 'accident' or
mysteriously 'committed suicide' by now.)

Canadians and other 'foreigners' can at least support Moore and his
eye-opening work by seeing the movie.  I've seen it three times now,
and it's riveting every time.  We can also pray that U.S. voters
will have the presence of mind to dump Dubya when they get the
chance.

Another Mike

--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, "the_peace_walker"
<the_peace_walker@y...> wrote:
> Friends,
>
> The burning question in the minds of Canadians who've seen this
film
> is -- How much impact will it have in the upcoming elections?
>
> Naturally, myself and like-minded people hope that it will. Not too
> many people north of the border feel like they belong to that elite
> group that stands to benefit rom the escapes of the Bush
> adminstration. For us, it's hard to beleive that there's any chance
> at all that the American people could possibly choose "four more
> years" after what has transpired. However, we also understand that
> there are fear dynamics at work (the film reveals the bogeyman as a
> fictional threat) and powerful interests at work (namely the near-
> religious obsession with economic growth).
>
> From our side of the line, I want to know -- What can Canadians do
> to help end the Bush regime? What can be done to ensure that the
> disenfranchised, (who are not a part of Bush's elite base), are on
> the voter's list? I've though that I might drive across the border
> and help shuttle people without adequate transportation get to the
> polling station on election day. Would that help?
>
> For some information about me, see www.peacewalker.com and also see
> the related Muslim-Jewish dialogue project at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/muslim-jewish
>
> Best,
>
> Alan

I can't get the music out of my head.  The soundtrack has not been
released.  There is a partial song list at:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/soundtrack

Does anyone else know of a more comprehensive list?

Does anyone know if Moore intends to release the soundtrack on CD?

Thanks,

Mike

These figures were taken from boxofficemojo.com... I had been
wodering about this, so I looked into it.

F9/11: Opening Weekend:  $23,920,637
(868 theaters, $27,558 average)

The Passion of the Christ: Opening Weekend:  $83,848,082
(3,043 theaters, $27,554 average)


What's so impressive is not the overall box office number, but the
fact that in about 28% of the theatres, F911 took in a slightly
better average in ticket sales. If you used the average for F911 and
multiplied it by 3.5 (to get 3,043 theaters), it would be within
$100,000 of Passion. Take that, Mel Gibson!


Best,

jessehogg

I'm still a relative neophyte on all the group etiquette; I've
started one of my own Yahoo group (TrueDebateCentral), and was
wondering if I could announce it on your board. It's aimed more at
those who can make informed rhetorical arguments (as it seems your
members can), rather than flaming otherwise decent groups.

Thanks for the consideration, either way.

PS the first question for debate is about MMoore.

jessehogg

$60 million and counting. Not bad per theatre either.
http://movies.yahoo.com/boxoffice/latest/rank.html

Here in liberal Takoma Park, Maryland we had our July 4th parade
today on the 5th.

In the parade were Billioniares for Bush. It was hilarious. There was
also a super giant size homemade SUV that must have been 10 feet tall.
http://billionairesforbush.com/index.php

Gawd there was a guy walking the sidewalks asking people to sign up
to show support for B/C 2004. I told him, "over my dead body." In
2000 Gore beat Bush by 8 to 1 in this town and Nader came in 2nd.

tj

Mike will be on the PBS Charlie Rose Show, part two, tonight.

Part one was broadcast last night. Did anyone see it?

http://www.michaelmoore.com/calendar/index.php

I would suggest seeing it in the theater, preferably soon while it's
still playing to packed houses.  You'll get the same feeling that you
get when you're at a massive protest, being in a room full of like
minded people who go in angry at Bush and come out just livid and
ready to do something about it.

While there's no chance that F9/11 will beat Spiderman at the box
office this week, we should still shoot for the number 2 spot.

--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, "jessehogg" <jessehogg@y...> wrote:
> Hey y'all:
>
> I've been a fan of M. Moore for some time; to me, he's more brave
> than our so-called professional media, who seem to be too busy
> trading favors and lap-dog treatment of Pres. Bush for access (now,
> where did I leave that First Amendment? lol)
>
> What I'm wondering is, will it be worth it to see F911 in the
> theatres now, or should I wait for DVD? I have a real strong
feeling
> that I agree with 100% of what he's saying in the film
(particularly
> if the reaction from F*ckhead News Channel and Shill O'Reilly are
any
> indication. They've been spinning their wheels trying to tamp down
> this movie; it MUST hit too close to the truth, and it must kill
the
> right-wingers to see it rake in $22 mil in its first weekend. (btw,
> how does that compare to Passion of the Christ? If it's within $2
or
> $3 million it must drive the Hannity-heads out there just nuts).
>
> Compliments on the timely group.
>
> jessehogg

--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, "TJ Mathews" <tjm4@m...> wrote:

> Can you share with us any info on who is working on get out
younger
> voters (18-24 year olds)? Are there any specific organizations?
Who
> knows? How do we find out?

Check the groups link list for organizations.
If you know of one not on the list, add it.

Two come to mind:

Moveon.org
Rockthevote.com

MTV is also organizating a national "get the vote out"
check the link list of the yahoo group: bandsagainstbush
(you don't have to be a group member to access the link list)

Can you share with us any info on who is working on get out younger
voters (18-24 year olds)? Are there any specific organizations? Who
knows? How do we find out? I think if the youth get motivated it
could make a difference in the outcome. FIRST they need to register
to vote and I believe there are deadlines for this.

I would donate to such a cause. Perhaps Canadians would too! And the
French and the whole bloody planet! The youth of the world should be
bombarding the youth of the US.

Damn I'm buzzing on this one.

tj
with no tv in the uncontested state of Maryland
with DUMP BUSH stickers on my car

--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, Mo Maxen <rlmaxen@y...> wrote:
> Good points.  The youngs liberals in this country
> definitely have a job to do up until the upcoming
> election.  I discuss politics with many of my friends,
> who unforunately are brainwashed by the Fox News
> Channel.  I even have a friend who thinks the Fox News
> Channel is one of the most liberal stations on air.
> It is sad to think how unaware the young people in
> this country actually are.  I am glad to see young
> Hollywood playing a part, as well as the hip hop
> community reaching out to young African Americans.  It
> amazes me how close the polls are and how much work it
> is actually going take to get this administration out
> of office.  It's a crazy world that we live in.
>
>
>  --- the_peace_walker <the_peace_walker@y...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Moses,
> >
> > Good thoughts and I'm with you all the way.  Raising
> > awareness in
> > the first step to making the change in November.
> >
> > But the essential thing is to get these people to
> > vote!  Canada had
> > an election this week and liberals narrowly defeated
> > the
> > conservatives (thank god!).  The shocking thing is
> > how low the voter
> > participation rate was amongst the young and the
> > "disenfranchised"
> > in Canada.
> >
> > It's not hard to get people thinking that they don't
> > want Bush in
> > the White House (and F-911 is an excellent tool for
> > convincing
> > people) -- It is more challenging to get them to
> > cast a ballot to
> > ensure that we don't get "four more years".
> >
> > As a Canadian , I can't vote for Nader, Kerry or
> > anyone!  Perhaps if
> > you take a bunch of people who can't afford to see
> > F-911 to the
> > theatre for an afternoon matinee, you'll consider
> > getting their
> > phone number and taking them out to vote in four
> > months!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Good points.  The youngs liberals in this country
definitely have a job to do up until the upcoming
election.  I discuss politics with many of my friends,
who unforunately are brainwashed by the Fox News
Channel.  I even have a friend who thinks the Fox News
Channel is one of the most liberal stations on air.
It is sad to think how unaware the young people in
this country actually are.  I am glad to see young
Hollywood playing a part, as well as the hip hop
community reaching out to young African Americans.  It
amazes me how close the polls are and how much work it
is actually going take to get this administration out
of office.  It's a crazy world that we live in.


  --- the_peace_walker <the_peace_walker@...>
wrote:
> Hi Moses,
>
> Good thoughts and I'm with you all the way.  Raising
> awareness in
> the first step to making the change in November.
>
> But the essential thing is to get these people to
> vote!  Canada had
> an election this week and liberals narrowly defeated
> the
> conservatives (thank god!).  The shocking thing is
> how low the voter
> participation rate was amongst the young and the
> "disenfranchised"
> in Canada.
>
> It's not hard to get people thinking that they don't
> want Bush in
> the White House (and F-911 is an excellent tool for
> convincing
> people) -- It is more challenging to get them to
> cast a ballot to
> ensure that we don't get "four more years".
>
> As a Canadian , I can't vote for Nader, Kerry or
> anyone!  Perhaps if
> you take a bunch of people who can't afford to see
> F-911 to the
> theatre for an afternoon matinee, you'll consider
> getting their
> phone number and taking them out to vote in four
> months!
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
>
>




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Agreed--me, I'd go see the movie AND get the DVD for
further reference.  However, Mike's starting to post
some information on his website but mainly in defense
of the claims of people getting in the press to
"debunk" his film.

I waited until the local library had a copy of "Stupid
White Men" and discovered that I really needed a copy
of my own because it was so jam-packed with info and
references that I wanted to have handier than having
to constantly go to the library to fetch it.

Having gone through that experience with his book, I
made a point of bringing a small notebook with me and
while I viewed the film I took a lot of notes (some of
which I find hard to read, ha).  Went to the website
and filled in a few blanks, but there are other blanks
remaining.  I'm hoping he'll post more as time goes
on.

--- have_moores <have_moores@...> wrote:
> I think you'd definitely want to go see it in the
> theaters, to boost
> its numbers and so forth.  I just saw it here
> outside the Dallas
> metro.  The Tuesday matinee was well attended and
> got a great
> response.  I will also want to see the video when it
> comes out,
> because it is too much info to readily digest on one
> pass.
>
> The case he makes is perfectly devistating. The two
> unfortunate
> explanations (i.e. for Bush's election) is that
> America is already
> either completely brain dead or else is living under
> a police state
> (some of each, probably, and certainly the latter).
>
> The only part I didn't like is he seemed to be
> suggesting the demos
> are a viable alternative.  Also, his conclusion
> relied heavily on one
> who struck me as highly emotional and irrational.
> He laid those
> Bushes bare, though, for the consummate underhanded
> money grubbers
> they are.  I mean, it was like Agent Orange on
> steroids!!!!! ;P
>


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Friends,

The burning question in the minds of Canadians who've seen this film
is -- How much impact will it have in the upcoming elections?

Naturally, myself and like-minded people hope that it will. Not too
many people north of the border feel like they belong to that elite
group that stands to benefit rom the escapes of the Bush
adminstration. For us, it's hard to beleive that there's any chance
at all that the American people could possibly choose "four more
years" after what has transpired. However, we also understand that
there are fear dynamics at work (the film reveals the bogeyman as a
fictional threat) and powerful interests at work (namely the near-
religious obsession with economic growth).

From our side of the line, I want to know -- What can Canadians do
to help end the Bush regime? What can be done to ensure that the
disenfranchised, (who are not a part of Bush's elite base), are on
the voter's list? I've though that I might drive across the border
and help shuttle people without adequate transportation get to the
polling station on election day. Would that help?

For some information about me, see www.peacewalker.com and also see
the related Muslim-Jewish dialogue project at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/muslim-jewish

Best,

Alan

I think you'd definitely want to go see it in the theaters, to boost
its numbers and so forth.  I just saw it here outside the Dallas
metro.  The Tuesday matinee was well attended and got a great
response.  I will also want to see the video when it comes out,
because it is too much info to readily digest on one pass.

The case he makes is perfectly devistating. The two unfortunate
explanations (i.e. for Bush's election) is that America is already
either completely brain dead or else is living under a police state
(some of each, probably, and certainly the latter).

The only part I didn't like is he seemed to be suggesting the demos
are a viable alternative.  Also, his conclusion relied heavily on one
who struck me as highly emotional and irrational.  He laid those
Bushes bare, though, for the consummate underhanded money grubbers
they are.  I mean, it was like Agent Orange on steroids!!!!! ;P

--- In f911@yahoogroups.com, "jessehogg" <jessehogg@y...> wrote:
> Hey y'all:
>
> I've been a fan of M. Moore for some time; to me, he's more brave
> than our so-called professional media, who seem to be too busy
> trading favors and lap-dog treatment of Pres. Bush for access (now,
> where did I leave that First Amendment? lol)
>
> What I'm wondering is, will it be worth it to see F911 in the
> theatres now, or should I wait for DVD? I have a real strong feeling
> that I agree with 100% of what he's saying in the film (particularly
> if the reaction from F*ckhead News Channel and Shill O'Reilly are any
> indication. They've been spinning their wheels trying to tamp down
> this movie; it MUST hit too close to the truth, and it must kill the
> right-wingers to see it rake in $22 mil in its first weekend. (btw,
> how does that compare to Passion of the Christ? If it's within $2 or
> $3 million it must drive the Hannity-heads out there just nuts).
>
> Compliments on the timely group.
>
> jessehogg

Hey y'all:

I've been a fan of M. Moore for some time; to me, he's more brave
than our so-called professional media, who seem to be too busy
trading favors and lap-dog treatment of Pres. Bush for access (now,
where did I leave that First Amendment? lol)

What I'm wondering is, will it be worth it to see F911 in the
theatres now, or should I wait for DVD? I have a real strong feeling
that I agree with 100% of what he's saying in the film (particularly
if the reaction from F*ckhead News Channel and Shill O'Reilly are any
indication. They've been spinning their wheels trying to tamp down
this movie; it MUST hit too close to the truth, and it must kill the
right-wingers to see it rake in $22 mil in its first weekend. (btw,
how does that compare to Passion of the Christ? If it's within $2 or
$3 million it must drive the Hannity-heads out there just nuts).

Compliments on the timely group.

jessehogg

I think that this movie could get out the 18-24 year old vote like
nothing else ever has. They need to see this film! I e-mailed MM and
MoveOn.org about an idea I had.

There should be a fund set up that provides either free or discounted
tickets to people who are 18-24 years old (another friend suggested
any military too). Perhaps the DVD could be cheaper for them as well.
I would donate to such a fund in a heartbeat.

tj
takoma park, md

PS. I talked to a friend today who was at the airport in Phoenix. He
told me that he had read about this same idea in a magazine. Any one
else catch this?

We live in the American Sunni Triangle; South Carolina. After
driving an hour and a half through an unexpected thunderstorm, we
arrived just in time to grab some decent seats. All shows at this
theatre sold out. Although I did not really learn anything new, to
have so many facts presented in such a concise and entertaining
manner was impressive indeed.

Unfortunately, We live in the American Sunni Triangle; South
Carolina. Soon, two Dixie Flag-Patch wearing, David Allen Coe/Darrel
Worley fans decided to take the seats next to us. They're
heckling,
childish references to Monica Lewis, and excitement of the bodies of
women, children, found  in sexually positions were of great
excitement to these young me. They screeched a "F-U" Cheney
shout on
their way out. They did this with a pace that was Olympic inspiring.
If you are thinking about not noting, think of theshese people who
will be at the pools.

Peace,
KV