"Above Suspicion" has just appeared on YouTube, posted in segments.  Here's a link to the opening minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYYLecR3N0I

Janet

Thank you Janet,

Steve Crook already knows about this and will help cineACTION with stills. I had
no idea about the yahoo group so please pass on this information.

The article will make up for my lack of interest in the film at the time I wrote
STRUCTURES OF DESIRE: BRITISH CINEMA 1939-55 and situates it within the
emigre/exile influences affecting British cinema in the 1930s.

I became interested in this area while reading WEIMAR IN EXILE and have finished
THE SEVENTH CROSS and now begaun THE OWL OF MINERVA while also starting the
Diaries of Thomas Mann.

Fascinating period!

Tony
--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, Janet Kovach <janet_kovach@...> wrote:
>
> Katya,
>
> Wonderful pic, thanks for sharing it!
>
> Tony W.,
>
> Did  you  let the Powell & Pressburger (PnP) Society  and its associated
online Yahoo group know about your forthcoming publication?  They would be very
interested.  I and a few others around here are members of the PnP group, would
you like the news passed on to them?
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Crescent9 <peckinpah20012000@...>
> To: conradveidt@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2009 0:43:44
> Subject: [conradveidt] Re: Another candid, posted in "Photos"
>
>  
>
> Katya,
>
> Definitely California.
>
> I have some good news to share on this site. CineACTION will be publishing my
article on CONTRABAND in their next issue. It deals with the film as a
collaborative texts involving Veidt, the Archers, Valerie Hobson, and Alfred
Junge in the context of British cinema pre- 1941 when things began to be more
nationalistic in tone.
>
> I'll keep you all posted when it appears.
>
> Tony W.
>
> --- In conradveidt@ yahoogroups. com, "katya617" <katya617@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Another CV candid photo showed up on eBay some days ago, this time a print
rather than a negative. I think it was from a different seller than the three
negatives Janet posted about previously, but it's curious that there were two
offers of rare genuine candids in a short space of time. I grabbed it up, and
it's now posted in the Miscellaneous folder of the Photos section. The seller
listed it as a photo of Conrad Veidt and his wife, taken by a fan -- probably in
California, given her dark glasses and his general appearance.
> >
> > -- Katya
> >
>

Katya,

Definitely California.

I have some good news to share on this site. CineACTION will be publishing my
article on CONTRABAND in their next issue. It deals with the film as a
collaborative texts involving Veidt, the Archers, Valerie Hobson, and Alfred
Junge in the context of British cinema pre- 1941 when things began to be more
nationalistic in tone.

I'll keep you all posted when it appears.

Tony W.


--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@...> wrote:
>
> Another CV candid photo showed up on eBay some days ago, this time a print
rather than a negative.  I think it was from a different seller than the three
negatives Janet posted about previously, but it's curious that there were two
offers of rare genuine candids in a short space of time.  I grabbed it up, and
it's now posted in the Miscellaneous folder of the Photos section.  The seller
listed it as a photo of Conrad Veidt and his wife, taken by a fan -- probably in
California, given her dark glasses and his general appearance.
>
> -- Katya
>

Thanks so much for sharing this!



--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@...> wrote:
>
> Another CV candid photo showed up on eBay some days ago, this time a print
rather than a negative.  I think it was from a different seller than the three
negatives Janet posted about previously, but it's curious that there were two
offers of rare genuine candids in a short space of time.  I grabbed it up, and
it's now posted in the Miscellaneous folder of the Photos section.  The seller
listed it as a photo of Conrad Veidt and his wife, taken by a fan -- probably in
California, given her dark glasses and his general appearance.
>
> -- Katya
>

Another CV candid photo showed up on eBay some days ago, this time a print
rather than a negative.  I think it was from a different seller than the three
negatives Janet posted about previously, but it's curious that there were two
offers of rare genuine candids in a short space of time.  I grabbed it up, and
it's now posted in the Miscellaneous folder of the Photos section.  The seller
listed it as a photo of Conrad Veidt and his wife, taken by a fan -- probably in
California, given her dark glasses and his general appearance.

-- Katya

----- Original Message -----

From: Janet Kovach

To: conradveidt@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:49 PM

Subject: [conradveidt] Interesting Candids on eBay

 

I spotted these interesting candid shots currently up for auction on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-3-1940s-Conrad-Veidt-candid-Photo-Negative_W0QQitemZ320427318073QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9af4db39&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 

I certainly haven't seen these images before - any idea where Conny is and what he is doing?

 

At a $9.99 starting price they must surely be of interest to somebody but note these are NEGATIVES and you will have to arrange to to have prints/digital scans made after purchase.

 

Janet

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Katya,

Thanks.

Please excuse my typo "dob" for "dog."

If the novel MEPHISTO is set entirely in the Nazi era, then Connie would not be
in Germany at that time.

I've also heard that "Jannings" makes an appearance in Tarantino's recent odious
war film INGLORIOUS BASTERDS along with Der Fuhfer watching a move premiere but
I just don't have the stomach to see it and find out whether he gets scalped by
Eli Roth with the rest of the Nazis.

Klaus Mann also describes Grunnings in THE TURNING POINT as a mixture of Beau
Brummel and a Dictator! It is an interesting book of reminiscences though
colored at the beginning by reminiscences of family suicides that he also would
sadly succumb to.

Tony

Tony

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@...> wrote:
>
> Emil Jannings also makes an appearance in Klaus Mann's novel "Mephisto." 
There he's a very minor figure, described as a "fat character actor" named
Joachim whose career is on the downswing.  Joachim sabotages and denounces
actors that know that his background isn't entirely Aryan, behavior that's been
ascribed to Jannings.  Given the reported magnitude and fragility of Jannings'
ego, making him a minor and superfluous character was perhaps a more effective
putdown than the demolition job performed on the novel's main target, Gustaf
Gründgens.  It's not a very good novel (the movie improves on it a bit), but of
course it's interesting historically as a roman a clef.  I recognized a few
other actors and writers from that period (e.g., Elisabeth Bergner), but there's
no Connie figure in it as far as I could see.
>
> -- Katya
>
> --- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "peckinpah20012000" <peckinpah20012000@>
wrote:
> >
> > During 1927, the son and daughter of Thomas Mann travel to America and visit
a Los Angeles "devoid of character..strangely lacking in substance, and form, in
life" (140) They meet Conrad Veidt at the Jannings's mansion who takes them to
the studio lot to admire his make-up for THE MAN WHO LAUGHS.
> >
> > "Veidt was as handsome and nonchalant and unassumingly intelligent in those
faraway days as he is now. He looks as supple and demoniac as a tiger with
sex-appeal, but really is a jolly good-hearted chap - whereas Emil Jannings has
the reassuring appearance of a big, loyal dob but is, indeed, callous and astute
(141-142).
> >
> > Klaus Mann, THE TURNING POINT. New York: L.B. Fischer, 1942.
> >
>

Emil Jannings also makes an appearance in Klaus Mann's novel "Mephisto."  There
he's a very minor figure, described as a "fat character actor" named Joachim
whose career is on the downswing.  Joachim sabotages and denounces actors that
know that his background isn't entirely Aryan, behavior that's been ascribed to
Jannings.  Given the reported magnitude and fragility of Jannings' ego, making
him a minor and superfluous character was perhaps a more effective putdown than
the demolition job performed on the novel's main target, Gustaf Gründgens.  It's
not a very good novel (the movie improves on it a bit), but of course it's
interesting historically as a roman a clef.  I recognized a few other actors and
writers from that period (e.g., Elisabeth Bergner), but there's no Connie figure
in it as far as I could see.

-- Katya

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "peckinpah20012000" <peckinpah20012000@...>
wrote:
>
> During 1927, the son and daughter of Thomas Mann travel to America and visit a
Los Angeles "devoid of character..strangely lacking in substance, and form, in
life" (140) They meet Conrad Veidt at the Jannings's mansion who takes them to
the studio lot to admire his make-up for THE MAN WHO LAUGHS.
>
> "Veidt was as handsome and nonchalant and unassumingly intelligent in those
faraway days as he is now. He looks as supple and demoniac as a tiger with
sex-appeal, but really is a jolly good-hearted chap - whereas Emil Jannings has
the reassuring appearance of a big, loyal dob but is, indeed, callous and astute
(141-142).
>
> Klaus Mann, THE TURNING POINT. New York: L.B. Fischer, 1942.
>

During 1927, the son and daughter of Thomas Mann travel to America and visit a
Los Angeles "devoid of character..strangely lacking in substance, and form, in
life" (140) They meet Conrad Veidt at the Jannings's mansion who takes them to
the studio lot to admire his make-up for THE MAN WHO LAUGHS.

"Veidt was as handsome and nonchalant and unassumingly intelligent in those
faraway days as he is now. He looks as supple and demoniac as a tiger with
sex-appeal, but really is a jolly good-hearted chap - whereas Emil Jannings has
the reassuring appearance of a big, loyal dob but is, indeed, callous and astute
(141-142).

Klaus Mann, THE TURNING POINT. New York: L.B. Fischer, 1942.

Last night I watched this film on a fair copy after first seeing it in pristine
condition at the National Film Theatre in London over 30 years ago.

It was so "Viennese" in terms of that sophisticated, sexual comedy trend, that
came to an abrupt end with the Nazi seizure of power.

As Metternich, Connie engages in his own type of Watergate activity using the
technology of the time while having breakfast in bed and cunningly  plots to get
the Congress in his own hand with the aid of Lil Dagover.

It was great to see Cesare and Jane re-united again as plotters in mischief
giving each other knowing glances and dancing together in the ballroom when
Metternich appears to have achieved all his aims.

Tony Williams

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "jdttpldr" <opaldit@...> wrote:
>
> Dear members, did anybody purchase the abovementioned dvd put up on YouTube by
Musimug,Coronaretro some three weeks ago?
> If yes, with what result?


I read some message board commentary yesterday that suggested that the guy
behind this has a history of bizarre online scams.  So I'm holding on to my
money unless I see some reports that debunk this, and affirm that he's come
through with the goods.

-- Katya

Dear members, did anybody purchase the abovementioned dvd put up on YouTube by
Musimug,Coronaretro some three weeks ago?
If yes, with what result?

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "peckinpah20012000" <peckinpah20012000@...>
wrote:
>
> This may come from a collector hoping to make some money. I know that Alice
Terry's last film with Rex Ingram is being offered on one site for $250 along
with Ingram's only sound film.
>
> If this offer is genuine, the price may go down since the only >competitors
are Stewart Granger in THE MAGIC BOW (1945) and the >great Klaus Kinski in a
film of the same name that he also directed.
>
> Tony Williams

Well -- those are competitors if one assumes the buyers are Paganini fans, not
Veidt or silent film fans!  The universe of potential buyers is small and
tight-knit in any case, so if this is a scam I don't think it will be a very
lucrative one.  Word will get around quickly if the DVD's on offer don't check
out.

The other offer from this company that's drawing attention is "Die Zwoelfte
Stunde," which is apparently a sound re-release of Nosferatu with a mix of
footage by Murnau and another director -- also long-sought.

-- Katya

This may come from a collector hoping to make some money. I know that Alice
Terry's last film with Rex Ingram is being offered on one site for $250 along
with Ingram's only sound film.

If this offer is genuine, the price may go down since the only competitors are
Stewart Granger in THE MAGIC BOW (1945) and the great Klaus Kinski in a film of
the same name that he also directed.

Tony Williams


--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@...> wrote:
>
> When I went back to YouTube to watch more of "N�chte am Bosporus" I found
another surprise, just posted:  a user named "Musimug" has put up an ad for a
DVD of the Veidt silent "Paganini."  There's a link to this German-language
webpage:
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/silentedition/
>
> which offers an 85-minute version of "Paganini," packaged along with an
hour-long documentary about CV.
>
> The YouTube ad describes "Paganini," as rare, but as far as I know it's been
considered a lost film.  Has anyone heard that it's been found?  The company
that's selling it (for a lot of money, 50 euros) seems to be new and to be
offering a few other previously unavailable or rare German silents, for which
"Musimug" has also put up ads.
>
> -- Katya
>

When I went back to YouTube to watch more of "Nächte am Bosporus" I found
another surprise, just posted:  a user named "Musimug" has put up an ad for a
DVD of the Veidt silent "Paganini."  There's a link to this German-language
webpage:

http://sites.google.com/site/silentedition/

which offers an 85-minute version of "Paganini," packaged along with an
hour-long documentary about CV.

The YouTube ad describes "Paganini," as rare, but as far as I know it's been
considered a lost film.  Has anyone heard that it's been found?  The company
that's selling it (for a lot of money, 50 euros) seems to be new and to be
offering a few other previously unavailable or rare German silents, for which
"Musimug" has also put up ads.

-- Katya

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "janet_kovach" <janet_kovach@...> wrote:
>

> Someone has also recently posted Abel Gance's "Napoleon" in multiple parts.

Then I hope it is the UK version with the Colin Davis score not the US version
promoted by Coppola with his Dad's mediocre score with footage cut out.

Tony W.

Actually, YouTube User Parysia77 has posted the entire film in nine parts.  In
German, no subtitles.

Someone has also recently posted Abel Gance's "Napoleon" in multiple parts.  CV
is listed in the cast list (as he often does in the case of this film)  as the
Marquis de Sade but in fact Veidt does not appear in the film.

Website tip: visit www.lost-films.eu to see some great material about
"Abend-Nacht-Morgan", "Der Film im Film", "Der Januskopf" and "Sehnsucht".

Janet



--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "peckinpah20012000" <peckinpah20012000@...>
wrote:
>
> Yes, thanks for posting these clips. The more rare material that can be shown
on youtube, the better.
>
> Tony W
>
> --- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "polednag" <polednag@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gilda Tabarez has posted two clips from one of CV's German talkies,  "Der
Mann, der den Mord beging," on YouTube.  The film is also called "Nächte am
Bosphorus," apparently, and is posted under that name.  It's the first time I've
seen any part of this hard-to-find film.  Heinrich George gets to wear the
monocle in this one, and looks to have been a worthy co-star.
> > >
> > thank you for letting us know about these postings! wonderful!
> >
>

Actually, YouTube User Parysia77 has posted the entire film in nine parts.  In
German, no subtitles.

Someone has also recently posted Abel Gance's "Napoleon" in multiple parts.  CV
is listed in the cast list (as he often does in the case of this film)  as the
Marquis de Sade but in fact Veidt does not appear in the film.

Website tip: visit www.lost-films.eu to see some great material about
"Abend-Nacht-Morgan", "Der Film im Film", "Der Januskopf" and "Sehnsucht".

Janet



--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "peckinpah20012000" <peckinpah20012000@...>
wrote:
>
> Yes, thanks for posting these clips. The more rare material that can be shown
on youtube, the better.
>
> Tony W
>
> --- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "polednag" <polednag@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gilda Tabarez has posted two clips from one of CV's German talkies,  "Der
Mann, der den Mord beging," on YouTube.  The film is also called "Nächte am
Bosphorus," apparently, and is posted under that name.  It's the first time I've
seen any part of this hard-to-find film.  Heinrich George gets to wear the
monocle in this one, and looks to have been a worthy co-star.
> > >
> > thank you for letting us know about these postings! wonderful!
> >
>

Yes, thanks for posting these clips. The more rare material that can be shown on
youtube, the better.

Tony W

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "polednag" <polednag@...> wrote:
>
> --- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@> wrote:
> >
> > Gilda Tabarez has posted two clips from one of CV's German talkies,  "Der
Mann, der den Mord beging," on YouTube.  The film is also called "Nächte am
Bosphorus," apparently, and is posted under that name.  It's the first time I've
seen any part of this hard-to-find film.  Heinrich George gets to wear the
monocle in this one, and looks to have been a worthy co-star.
> >
> thank you for letting us know about these postings! wonderful!
>

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "katya617" <katya617@...> wrote:
>
> Gilda Tabarez has posted two clips from one of CV's German talkies,  "Der
Mann, der den Mord beging," on YouTube.  The film is also called "Nächte am
Bosphorus," apparently, and is posted under that name.  It's the first time I've
seen any part of this hard-to-find film.  Heinrich George gets to wear the
monocle in this one, and looks to have been a worthy co-star.
>
thank you for letting us know about these postings! wonderful!

Gilda Tabarez has posted two clips from one of CV's German talkies,  "Der Mann,
der den Mord beging," on YouTube.  The film is also called "Nächte am
Bosphorus," apparently, and is posted under that name.  It's the first time I've
seen any part of this hard-to-find film.  Heinrich George gets to wear the
monocle in this one, and looks to have been a worthy co-star.

Connie has a relatively short role in this film and, as one critic has noted, at
least his last appearance does not see him as a Nazi but as a resistance
fighter.

However, his brief appearances do exhibit some delights such as his Bavarian
costume with shorts and his tango with a very large lady perhaps emulating
Rudolph Valentino in THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE (1920)? He could sing
(as in FPI and CONTRABAND) as well as dance too.

Tony W.

----- Original Message -----

From: polednag

To: conradveidt@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:59 PM

Subject: [conradveidt] lack of variety of roles

It is really sad that Hollywood thanked Veidt's return to Hollywood with only typical villain roles-although they are fun to watch because of his talent,it would have been great to have seen variety-it is a blessing that so many of his silents survive so that we can enjoy his varied talent

---

I've often thought about the type of roles Veidt could have played had he
returned to Germany after 1945.

Has anybody here seen DER RUF starring Fritz Kortner, another exile. He plays a
Jewish professor who returns to his old university only to find that
anti-semitism is still rife after 1945. It was released in America with
sub-titles provided by Budd Schulberg in the early 1950s and is now available on
DVD in Germany but I don't think it is subtitled.

Tony W.

As I mentioned towards the end of my posting, it is possible that he could have
developed further after the end of the war when his villain persona was no
longer required. Korean actor Philip Ahn made a career of playing villainous
Japanese and regarded it as his patriotic duty against a country that had
colonized his own homeland.

He initially went over with the CONTRABAND print but appeared in several MGM
films. There is a faint possibility that he could have overcome the stereotyped
roles but his performances are always interesting.His unexpected heart attack
removed any possibility of variety developing.

Tony W.


--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "polednag" <polednag@...> wrote:
>
> It is really sad that Hollywood thanked Veidt's return to Hollywood with only
typical villain roles-although they are fun to watch because of his talent,it
would have been great to have seen variety-it is a blessing that so many of his
silents survive so that we can enjoy his varied talent
>

It is really sad that Hollywood thanked Veidt's return to Hollywood with only
typical villain roles-although they are fun to watch because of his talent,it
would have been great to have seen variety-it is a blessing that so many of his
silents survive so that we can enjoy his varied talent

--- In conradveidt@yahoogroups.com, "peckinpah20012000" <peckinpah20012000@...>
wrote:
>I thought it was extremely ironic that the best Hollywood could come up with
for Veidt's talent was one villain stereotype after another-it is always
enjoyable to see him , but it still seems awfully narrow minded to mainly cast
him in these type roles. Thank goodness some of the silents which show his depth
in other roles , still survive.
> I watched this film last night not being a particular fan of Red Skelton.
However, Connie really fitted well into the context of this comedy thriller by
not matching joke for joke but playing his own debonair sinister self. In many
ways, he functioned as the straight man of a comedy team by intercut shots with
Skelton and individual close-ups whereby he allowed the comedy lines to bounce
off him realizing this was the right strategy.
>
> The film palled whenever he was not there since he was able to exude his own
brand of professional charisma in an MGM vehicle he probably would not have
chosen initially were it not for his second sojourn in Hollywood.
>
> Perhaps Jerry Allen and Soister are correct in thinking that had he lived he
could have pursued an interesting career in film noir and comedy. Alternatively,
he could have decided to return to Germany and go on the stage and make some
films. However, the Germany he once knew in his creative years in the Weimar
Republic no longer existed.
>
> Tony W.
>

I watched this film last night not being a particular fan of Red Skelton.
However, Connie really fitted well into the context of this comedy thriller by
not matching joke for joke but playing his own debonair sinister self. In many
ways, he functioned as the straight man of a comedy team by intercut shots with
Skelton and individual close-ups whereby he allowed the comedy lines to bounce
off him realizing this was the right strategy.

The film palled whenever he was not there since he was able to exude his own
brand of professional charisma in an MGM vehicle he probably would not have
chosen initially were it not for his second sojourn in Hollywood.

Perhaps Jerry Allen and Soister are correct in thinking that had he lived he
could have pursued an interesting career in film noir and comedy. Alternatively,
he could have decided to return to Germany and go on the stage and make some
films. However, the Germany he once knew in his creative years in the Weimar
Republic no longer existed.

Tony W.