Hey everyone,
    Anyone who's a Balto fan and would like seeing new and improved
Balto DVDs should sign the petition started on Balto Source.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/328925814
On behalf of the Balto community and myself, we would like to thank
anyone who signs.

I have made a new group that specifically for furry horse yiff and
anything related to horses such as screen grabs and chats. It is still
in the making but you are welcome to drop in and contribute. Also if
you are interested in being a moderator I will pick at least 2-3 people
so drop by and talk to me at=
groups.yahoo.com/group/furryhorseyiff/

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--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:
>
>
> > "I agree on all counts. And they could've done without the
> > show-stopping goose song and dance routine."
>
>
>
> **I know... It's SO long.  It just goes on and on.  I don't think
> they needed to devote so many minutes just to bring home the point
> that she has a crush on Boris.  I mean, that was obvious already,
> so..?   And I'm sure I'm thinking too deeply about the mating rituals
> of geese, but what did she really see in him anyway?   She just like
> swooped down and was instantly in love, and you never learned
> anything about what happened to her previous mate, right?  (Or was
> that in the song?  I don't know - I FFed.  Even the first time, I
> FFed!!)   Also she was sort of an attractive goose (If you like that
> drama queen type of personality in your goose) so you'd think other
> geese would be all over her.
>
>
>  "However, I liked the plot
> > a LOT more than in the second movie."
>
> **Yeah, it was much more complex, and things happened that affected
> other things.  Wolf Quest was so linear, nothing else was happening,
> and it lost all momentum and got repetitive easily.
>
> Other stuff:
>
> **Wasn't Balto kind of...*pushy* in this movie?   There were a couple
> of scenes with the sled team where he seemed all uncharacteristically
> competitive.  Like when he says, "NO One gives up on my team !  NO
> ONE !!"   He didn't sound like Balto.   More like some overly-
> aggressive high school football coach.
>
> **Isn't there an anal fixation in this movie ?   They use the
> word "butt" like four times, and several more euphemisms for it
> throughout.   I think every 20 minutes there's a reference to
> someone's posterior.
>
>
> :o/
> ~Baltoship's Butt


Pushy? perhaps. Remember though, that he was trying to help them save
their jobs, and you could tell from the very first that all the dogs
on the team, with the exception of a very idealistic Kodi, were just a
bit on the lazy "don't really care" side. Having written some stories
with Balto as the main character, I've come to believe that Balto is
an excellent judge of character in most cases.

As for the other? Don't have much I can say on that account....
~eagle205~

> "I agree on all counts. And they could've done without the
> show-stopping goose song and dance routine."



**I know... It's SO long.  It just goes on and on.  I don't think
they needed to devote so many minutes just to bring home the point
that she has a crush on Boris.  I mean, that was obvious already,
so..?   And I'm sure I'm thinking too deeply about the mating rituals
of geese, but what did she really see in him anyway?   She just like
swooped down and was instantly in love, and you never learned
anything about what happened to her previous mate, right?  (Or was
that in the song?  I don't know - I FFed.  Even the first time, I
FFed!!)   Also she was sort of an attractive goose (If you like that
drama queen type of personality in your goose) so you'd think other
geese would be all over her.


  "However, I liked the plot
> a LOT more than in the second movie."

**Yeah, it was much more complex, and things happened that affected
other things.  Wolf Quest was so linear, nothing else was happening,
and it lost all momentum and got repetitive easily.

Other stuff:

**Wasn't Balto kind of...*pushy* in this movie?   There were a couple
of scenes with the sled team where he seemed all uncharacteristically
competitive.  Like when he says, "NO One gives up on my team !  NO
ONE !!"   He didn't sound like Balto.   More like some overly-
aggressive high school football coach.

**Isn't there an anal fixation in this movie ?   They use the
word "butt" like four times, and several more euphemisms for it
throughout.   I think every 20 minutes there's a reference to
someone's posterior.


:o/
~Baltoship's Butt

I agree on all counts. And they could've done without the
show-stopping goose song and dance routine. However, I liked the plot
a LOT more than in the second movie. And I'm going to be starting a
fanfic shortly to help develop Kodi a bit more.
eagle205



--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:
>
> So who's seen it?   Probably most of the fans, I'd guess.   It was
> released quietly. I haven't seen any commercials for it or anything.
> At first I was worried because the cover art is pretty horrid (worse
> than B2) but I liked it a lot more than Balto 2.   That was a nice
> surprise and I'm actually hoping they make a fourth one!     Even the
> animation in this one was a *tad* bit better.  For example, Jenna is
> actually ON  MODEL in one scene!  Balto is almost there, too, in a
> couple of scenes.
>    Of course, a lot of the animation is as bad as Balto 2. No one has
> fixed Balto's Long, rubbery, archy neck, or his short, stumpy legs.
> But at least his eyes are yellow again!! Yay !
>
>     The story is much better in Balto 3, too.  There is more
> happening, better interplay between all of the characters, more
> excitement all around.
>
>     So, it's not a *great* movie, but it's definitely an improvement
> over B2.   The major things I didn't like were the two songs in the
> middle (Pointless and lame !)  and the weird way that they spend so
> much time developing minimal characters (The two dogs in the
> beginning, Stella) and no time at all developing the important ones
> like Duke and Kodi !   I found Stella to be a little too much.
> Pretty annoying.  Actually I FF through her song every time !
>
> :o)
>
> ~Baltoship

So who's seen it?   Probably most of the fans, I'd guess.   It was
released quietly. I haven't seen any commercials for it or anything.
At first I was worried because the cover art is pretty horrid (worse
than B2) but I liked it a lot more than Balto 2.   That was a nice
surprise and I'm actually hoping they make a fourth one!     Even the
animation in this one was a *tad* bit better.  For example, Jenna is
actually ON  MODEL in one scene!  Balto is almost there, too, in a
couple of scenes.
    Of course, a lot of the animation is as bad as Balto 2. No one has
fixed Balto's Long, rubbery, archy neck, or his short, stumpy legs.
But at least his eyes are yellow again!! Yay !

     The story is much better in Balto 3, too.  There is more
happening, better interplay between all of the characters, more
excitement all around.

     So, it's not a *great* movie, but it's definitely an improvement
over B2.   The major things I didn't like were the two songs in the
middle (Pointless and lame !)  and the weird way that they spend so
much time developing minimal characters (The two dogs in the
beginning, Stella) and no time at all developing the important ones
like Duke and Kodi !   I found Stella to be a little too much.
Pretty annoying.  Actually I FF through her song every time !

:o)

~Baltoship

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Just found the trailer while surfing the web. It has a few spoilers in
it, but I've uploaded it to the files section of this site. Courtesy
of your friendly neighborhood fanfic writer. BTW, the clip is in
English...ignore the Japanese characters at the bottom...
Eagle205

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the baltosanctuary
group.

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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

eagle_205 <eagle_205@...>

Glad you're liking it. Be sure to leave some feedback in the reviews
section on fanfiction.net too. Pass on the word to other Balto fans
too ;-) To be perfectly honest, I also got tired of the typos and lack
of plot...That's why I started writing this in the first place. I'm
hoping that Balto III can come up to par. I found the trailer btw. It
has the makings to be a good movie, but then, so did Land Before Time
as of the third one...
Hopefully Universal won't screw this up.
Eagle205


--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:
> I'm enjoying it.  I'm only on part 7, but it is a fine story and well
> fleshed out with new characters.   It's great to see how well written
> it is, too, like with correct spelling and such, no typos, good
> grammar, etc.  It sounds petty I guess, but for me it is so
> distracting to have to get through usage errors and bad spelling just
> to read the story!
>     I like how you wrote for Boris, and how refreshing it is to have
> Jenna as a solid character with something to say.   More like in
> Balto 1 and not the boring pushover she was in the sequel.
>
>    Still reading.  More later!
> :o)
> ~Baltoship
>
>
> --- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
> wrote:
> > That's right. Fanfiction.net finally got it right. All the chapters
> > from my fanfic are in the right order, so everyone stop by and post
> > some feedback.
> > Eagle205

I'm enjoying it.  I'm only on part 7, but it is a fine story and well
fleshed out with new characters.   It's great to see how well written
it is, too, like with correct spelling and such, no typos, good
grammar, etc.  It sounds petty I guess, but for me it is so
distracting to have to get through usage errors and bad spelling just
to read the story!
     I like how you wrote for Boris, and how refreshing it is to have
Jenna as a solid character with something to say.   More like in
Balto 1 and not the boring pushover she was in the sequel.

    Still reading.  More later!
:o)
~Baltoship


--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
wrote:
> That's right. Fanfiction.net finally got it right. All the chapters
> from my fanfic are in the right order, so everyone stop by and post
> some feedback.
> Eagle205

"OK, I'm gonna start getting happy posty here again. Sorry for my
> stupid absence."

**I'm glad Balto 3 is coming out - maybe it will bring the regular
posting back here !!  Welcome back.  We've all missed you!  :o)

  "OH< BALTOSHIP! MYSTERIOUS CITIES OF GOLD! >
> I didn't think anyone knew about that series but me."

**Oh yeah, I did mention that a few posts back, didn't I?  I am on
the Goldlist at Yahoo, though I don't post there very much.  It is a
great list and very active, but there are a couple of flamers there
(actually they are in the middle of an argument with one now) and
it's not a free topic group.   Plus... hm, you didn't hear it from me
but sometimes the atmosphere there is a little bit... *weird*.  I
don't know, but sometimes I just get a weird feeling from some of the
posters.

     Anyway Mysterious Cities of Gold.. Yeah, what a show !!!  You can
get really NICE DVD bootlegs at ebay now.   I've also heard that
someone (Warner?) purchased the rights to it and will be putting it
on DVD officially sometime in the future?
    Just an awesome series.  So gripping.   LOVE Mendoza ! I've been
letting people borrow my copies one tape at a time and then laughing
while they beg me for the next one !!  :oD

" How about Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea?"

   I remember it was always on right after the cities of gold, but for
some reason I just never got into it?  I watched it several times,
but I have always felt that it never had quite what MCoG did, and so
it has not earned the same fan following...

:o)
~Baltoship

Glad to see you're back. Be sure to check out my fanfic...probably
sometime after tomorrow. Apparently, fanfiction.net cut out all
symbols from my story and wouldn't let me doublespace between sections
of my story. Hopefully it's fixed.
Eagle205

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "Shadow Glyph" <sparf1@y...> wrote:
> OK, I'm gonna start getting happy posty here again. Sorry for my
> stupid absence.
>
>
> OH< BALTOSHIP! MYSTERIOUS CITIES OF GOLD!
>
> I didn't think anyone knew about that series but me.
>
> How about Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea?

That's right. Fanfiction.net finally got it right. All the chapters
from my fanfic are in the right order, so everyone stop by and post
some feedback.
Eagle205

OK, I'm gonna start getting happy posty here again. Sorry for my
stupid absence.


OH< BALTOSHIP! MYSTERIOUS CITIES OF GOLD!

I didn't think anyone knew about that series but me.

How about Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea?

Hey guys, I just found out that once again, my chapters were out of
order on fanfiction.net. It should be fixed now. So if you were
confused by the opening, try reading it from the start again.
Eagle205

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...> wrote:
> Glad you're liking it :) I've noticed that some fanfics tend to be
> poorly written or written like a script. I set out to change all that,
> and, yes, I've been writing on it since...well, I actually forgot when
> I started it. It was sometime in December or January I think. Like
> I've said many times before, I never set out to write a Balto 3; I
> just wanted to fill in some time gaps and explain why the
> devil-may-care Balto of the first movie was all for leaving the wolves
> in Wolf Queste to deal with their own problems, not to mention keeping
> Aleu out of the mix. Please do leave me some feedback. I'll be opening
> my fanfic to public comments tonight, so drop some lines their too.
BTW, be sure to spread the word around the Balto community. I could
use the publicity.
> Eagle_205
>
>
>
> --- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...>
wrote:
> > Wow, thanks for the link!  I have not had time to read it all, just
> > the first pages, but I really like how it is written.   It's so LONG,
> > too!  It must have taken you forever, but I love to see such well
> > crafted work !!  It is detailed and realistic; it sounds
> > more "adult," too, like a sophisticated story that would be
> > believable.
> >    I will read more and follow up.. Just wanted to give you some
> > feedback now since you posted this a couple weeks ago...
> >
> > :o)
> > ~Baltoship
> >
> > -- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Just an update. I've relocated my fanfic under the genre of Misc.
> > > Movies. Drop by and give me some feedback.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > I don't know if anyone visits this site anymore, but if so, check
> > out
> > > > my new fanfic at www.fanfiction.net. You can search for author
> > under
> > > > the name eagle_205, with a category of movie crossovers (It's not
> > > > really, but it fills in some gaps in Wolf Quest and ties in some
> > other
> > > > great fanfics). Or if you want to look for title, look for "Balto
> > > > Untold." It's a horrible title, but give it a chance, Please. I'd
> > > > appreciate any feedback.

Glad you're liking it :) I've noticed that some fanfics tend to be
poorly written or written like a script. I set out to change all that,
and, yes, I've been writing on it since...well, I actually forgot when
I started it. It was sometime in December or January I think. Like
I've said many times before, I never set out to write a Balto 3; I
just wanted to fill in some time gaps and explain why the
devil-may-care Balto of the first movie was all for leaving the wolves
in Wolf Queste to deal with their own problems, not to mention keeping
Aleu out of the mix. Please do leave me some feedback. I'll be opening
my fanfic to public comments tonight, so drop some lines their too.
Eagle_205



--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:
> Wow, thanks for the link!  I have not had time to read it all, just
> the first pages, but I really like how it is written.   It's so LONG,
> too!  It must have taken you forever, but I love to see such well
> crafted work !!  It is detailed and realistic; it sounds
> more "adult," too, like a sophisticated story that would be
> believable.
>    I will read more and follow up.. Just wanted to give you some
> feedback now since you posted this a couple weeks ago...
>
> :o)
> ~Baltoship
>
> -- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
> wrote:
> > Just an update. I've relocated my fanfic under the genre of Misc.
> > Movies. Drop by and give me some feedback.
> >
> >
> > --- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
> wrote:

> > > I don't know if anyone visits this site anymore, but if so, check
> out
> > > my new fanfic at www.fanfiction.net. You can search for author
> under
> > > the name eagle_205, with a category of movie crossovers (It's not
> > > really, but it fills in some gaps in Wolf Quest and ties in some
> other
> > > great fanfics). Or if you want to look for title, look for "Balto
> > > Untold." It's a horrible title, but give it a chance, Please. I'd
> > > appreciate any feedback.

Wow, thanks for the link!  I have not had time to read it all, just
the first pages, but I really like how it is written.   It's so LONG,
too!  It must have taken you forever, but I love to see such well
crafted work !!  It is detailed and realistic; it sounds
more "adult," too, like a sophisticated story that would be
believable.
    I will read more and follow up.. Just wanted to give you some
feedback now since you posted this a couple weeks ago...

:o)
~Baltoship

-- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
wrote:
> Just an update. I've relocated my fanfic under the genre of Misc.
> Movies. Drop by and give me some feedback.
>
>
> --- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
wrote:
> > I don't know if anyone visits this site anymore, but if so, check
out
> > my new fanfic at www.fanfiction.net. You can search for author
under
> > the name eagle_205, with a category of movie crossovers (It's not
> > really, but it fills in some gaps in Wolf Quest and ties in some
other
> > great fanfics). Or if you want to look for title, look for "Balto
> > Untold." It's a horrible title, but give it a chance, Please. I'd
> > appreciate any feedback.

Does anyone know if there are some good pictures from the new trailer
anywhere yet?  It's way early I know, but Mr. Computer doesn't seem
to want to cooperate with the whole downloading/saving/opening
thing...
    It's kind of exciting to think of Balto 3 and hope that it will be
better than Balto 2.  At least the story seems to be more rooted in
reality, and more like the original Balto.  (For some reason I would
prefer the story to be "stolen" from Balto 1 rather than the Secret
of NIMH, as was B2 !!)
     I wonder if the characters will be drawn better this time, too?
(Closer to model, at least?) It'll be good to have an adventure-type
story again rather than the more.. uh.. mental journey that Balto 2
was.

Fingers crossed.
:o)
~Baltoship

Just an update. I've relocated my fanfic under the genre of Misc.
Movies. Drop by and give me some feedback.


--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...> wrote:
> I don't know if anyone visits this site anymore, but if so, check out
> my new fanfic at www.fanfiction.net. You can search for author under
> the name eagle_205, with a category of movie crossovers (It's not
> really, but it fills in some gaps in Wolf Quest and ties in some other
> great fanfics). Or if you want to look for title, look for "Balto
> Untold." It's a horrible title, but give it a chance, Please. I'd
> appreciate any feedback.

I don't know if anyone visits this site anymore, but if so, check out
my new fanfic at www.fanfiction.net. You can search for author under
the name eagle_205, with a category of movie crossovers (It's not
really, but it fills in some gaps in Wolf Quest and ties in some other
great fanfics). Or if you want to look for title, look for "Balto
Untold." It's a horrible title, but give it a chance, Please. I'd
appreciate any feedback.

(cross-posted EVERYWHERE)

Hullo, my fellow (hopefully) animal lovers. You may or may not have
heard of this latest rising power in the world of Animal Welfare -
Sue Steinberg.
Her goal? To euthanize and gas 80-90% of all kennel dogs and cats on
the east coast. Already hundreds have been put to death at her hands.
She has been reported to refer to herself as, 'the Dog Hitler.'
Sounds like a lame movie, doesn't it? Unfortunately, she's all too
real and she already has quite a following among shelter workers who
don't want to deal with the guilt of euthanization themselves.
HBO recently aired a 'documentary' on this woman and her work,
putting her on a pedestal as a big-hearted lover of animals.
While I myself did not have the opportunity to see this program, I'm
sure they left out all the puppies put to death because they did not
pass her 'tests.' What 'tests,' you ask? These abandoned animals are
brought to her, bewildered and confused, for her to pass judgment on
them. Right there, on the spot, their future is determined. Almost
all of them fail - Like the six-month old puppy, Oliver who took
food 'too eagerly,' from a handler, a supposed 'sign of later
aggression'. Or the countless dogs who showed fear, timidity, or
hesitation at being put in these strange new environments, some
abused, many having had minimal human contact in their lifetimes.
Steinburg holds seminars in which she passes judgment on animals in
front of an audience, refusing to answer questions and growing
angered at those who attempted to write notes regarded her actions
throughout the seminar.
Ms. Steinburg has been reported to admit that even her own dogs could
not pass her "Assess-a-Pet" test.
She relates personal stories of convincing owners to pass their dogs
on to her, promising them that the dogs will be re-homed, "with the
one and only goal of euthanasia."
Dozens of her employees have left her, sickened by her actions, but
others still rally in her defense, taking comfort in the fact that
they will not have to deal with the deaths of these animals
themselves.

Those of you who are disturbed by this and want to help can write to
Ms. Steinberg at suesteinberg.com, but choose your words carefully as
this woman is suit-happy. If you want more information or would like
to help me with something a bit more discreet, please e-mail me at
either sarawolf77@... or zeki@....
Help stop the slaughter!


~Zeki B.

I actually watched *Balto* on there a few weeks ago! It was so cool.
(Why is it so cool to watch it on TV instead of video?  It's the same
movie, but I guess it feels more "official" to have it on tv..?)
    Today I was looking around the dial and found one of the Land
Before Time sequels on Cartoon Network.  It might have been the
second one - it was one of those early ones where it starts with
the narrator having to give this summary of the dinosaur life and how
they live in the great valley and such.  Seems like the later ones
don't do that.  I guess they figure everyone knows it and is sick of
it already by the 6th sequel.

:o)
~Baltoship

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
wrote:
> Check Cartoon Network listings for this weekend. Wolf Quest is going
> to be on finally.
> Eagle_205
>

Check Cartoon Network listings for this weekend. Wolf Quest is going
to be on finally.
Eagle_205

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:
> I have been watching Cartoon Network lately (now that I get extended
> cable - Yay for me.) and it seems like they don't have that many cool
> cartoons on.  I was hoping they would have more classic cartoons and
> 80s series, but I don't see those on there very often.  And the
> ... um.. "after hours"  programming... ?   Hmm.. No offense to anyone
> but, I HATE those shows !!   I can't believe they put stuff like
> Aqua Teen Hunger Force on DVD, when the classic 80s cartoons like The
> Mysterious Cities of Gold aren't available anywhere.    It just
> doesn't seem *right* !
>     Every once in a while they play that Balto promo... "From the
> network that brought you.."  so it briefly seems like Cartoon Network
> might be cool, but after Family Guy and Futurama, it's just this
> long, downhill slide.
>
> :o)
> ~Baltoship

> I actually heard the news months ago.  It's sad, but it's going to
> happen.

**I had hoped that Brother Bear might do well enough to change
peoples' minds... :o(

   However, there may be hope in the form of Pixar, once they
> finally split from Disney.  I hear that they plan partner with
> another studio (the name eludes me right now), and work on
> traditional animation.

  **oooh, really ?!   That would be SO cool !!

  As for Disney, I don't see them succeeding
> much without Pixar.  So it's a matter of time as you say, before
they
> re-explore tradition animation (don't know if it'll be cell or
> digital though).

**It seems like people are wowed by 3-D, though.  Finding Nemo was
pretty, uh... "simple" in terms of plot - moreso than any of their
previous movies.  But it's so pretty and the imagery is original, and
I think that is why people were impressed with it.  If it had been 2-
D, I think it would have been much less popular, and people might
have knocked it for looking too much like The Little Mermaid.
   Brother Bear, too- If it had been 3-D, I bet it would have made
gobs of money.
    Of course, right now it's hard to separate what is actually
appreciated in these films vs. what the audience will trust enough to
risk their money on.   With 3-D around now, too, it kind of makes 2-D
films look.. "cartoony" I guess, so people are especially more likely
to go for All-CGI movies.
     I think Pixar could pull of really good 2-D movies, though, and
people would trust them enough to go see them.   Disney... hmm...
Hopefully Lilo and Stitch and Brother Bear are indications that they
are getting *away* from the Atlantis/Treasure Planet THING, and if
they went 3-D, they could even make lame movies (maybe) and they
might still be popular since people are so in the CGI mood now.
    It will get stale after a while though, for sure.

>
> As for traditional animation, it's not completely dead.  Maybe
> American studios have forgotten it at the moment, but there is
still
> animation to the East.  Very good animation.  Even if some people
> cringe at the name, anime, I do believe there is a series or movie
> for everyone.  So while waiting out the American storm, you could
> always turn to Japan for your entertainment values. ^_^;

   **I am one of the (few, I guess?) people who has not gotten into
Anime.  I did not think much of Princess Mononoke or Spirited Away.
They are lovely and artsy and all but... I like a movie that explains
its stuff and doesn't leave all the... "mystery."  Too often with
Miyazaki, there are just all these unanswered questions.  It needs a
touch of Shyamalan, perhaps, lol.
>
> As for Brother Bear, I thought it was a pretty good movie.  I went
to
> go see it on opening day.  I think it would have done better if it
> had been a summer release, and not a fall one.  November is a
> terrible time for movies.  December isn't much better, as they tend
> to be all lumped together and released around the same time.

   **Yeah, and it also came after two really BIG movies, (Nemo and
Pirates) and maybe that cursed it with the "Hopes Up/Disappointment
Effect," a la Pocahontas..?
    Yes, winter is not a good time for a movie like that.  Maybe they
thought it would fit better because it's kind of a wintry movie with
snow and ice, but summer would have been WAY better.

:o)
~Baltoship

I actually heard the news months ago.  It's sad, but it's going to
happen.  However, there may be hope in the form of Pixar, once they
finally split from Disney.  I hear that they plan partner with
another studio (the name eludes me right now), and work on
traditional animation.  As for Disney, I don't see them succeeding
much without Pixar.  So it's a matter of time as you say, before they
re-explore tradition animation (don't know if it'll be cell or
digital though).

As for traditional animation, it's not completely dead.  Maybe
American studios have forgotten it at the moment, but there is still
animation to the East.  Very good animation.  Even if some people
cringe at the name, anime, I do believe there is a series or movie
for everyone.  So while waiting out the American storm, you could
always turn to Japan for your entertainment values. ^_^;

As for Brother Bear, I thought it was a pretty good movie.  I went to
go see it on opening day.  I think it would have done better if it
had been a summer release, and not a fall one.  November is a
terrible time for movies.  December isn't much better, as they tend
to be all lumped together and released around the same time.

~Silver  Huskey
--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...>
wrote:
> Well, it's really sad, but I guess Feature Quality 2-D animation is
> going to go into hibernation (Ok, NO MORE Bear Puns.  I promise.  I
> know we're all sick of them),
> or at least take a break for a while after Home on the Range.
>
>  I am totally saddened by this, and mad, and surprised.  And other
> things.  But mainly just sad.  Now, I do think that 2-D will come
> back eventually, like maybe after people get tired of 3-D and want
> something new, but probably only in a limited fashion.  I think
part
> of the reason this happened was the Attack of the Disney Sequels.
>    Ok, it was mainly how craptacular most of the recent 2-D
pictures
> have been, but I think the mass production of so many lame sequels
in
> a row had something to do with it.
> (I don't really blame Balto 2 for this, since it was not as
> commercialized, and only the Balto fans really know it exists.)
>
>   But I think people have learned now to associate 2-D with either:
>
> 1. Lame movies
>
> or
>
> 2. Cheap sequels
>
>    I think it is a little ironic that Disney's recent love affair
> with horrible sequels might have had a small part in the "death" of
> traditional animation, something they were pioneers in.
>
>    I like the 3-D movies also, but traditional animation is just
> so... CLASSIC.   And it's more the characters and story that
matter,
> anyway, not the animation style.
>     I thought Brother Bear was QUITE good (As good as Lilo and
> Stitch, anyway) and it could have made a lot more money than it did
> (About 81 Mil) if only people weren't so jaded about the animation
> style.  It's like they won't even give it a chance now.   I am
> thinking maybe Home on the Range will flop, too, just because
people
> won't give it a chance.
>
>    Then again, I'm sure it won't be long until the 3-D Genre starts
> turning out some mediocre Action Flicks, or just straight
> *turkeys*... And then maybe people will be more open to traditional
> again?
>
>   :o)
> ~Baltoship

Well, it's really sad, but I guess Feature Quality 2-D animation is
going to go into hibernation (Ok, NO MORE Bear Puns.  I promise.  I
know we're all sick of them),
or at least take a break for a while after Home on the Range.

  I am totally saddened by this, and mad, and surprised.  And other
things.  But mainly just sad.  Now, I do think that 2-D will come
back eventually, like maybe after people get tired of 3-D and want
something new, but probably only in a limited fashion.  I think part
of the reason this happened was the Attack of the Disney Sequels.
    Ok, it was mainly how craptacular most of the recent 2-D pictures
have been, but I think the mass production of so many lame sequels in
a row had something to do with it.
(I don't really blame Balto 2 for this, since it was not as
commercialized, and only the Balto fans really know it exists.)

   But I think people have learned now to associate 2-D with either:

1. Lame movies

or

2. Cheap sequels

    I think it is a little ironic that Disney's recent love affair
with horrible sequels might have had a small part in the "death" of
traditional animation, something they were pioneers in.

    I like the 3-D movies also, but traditional animation is just
so... CLASSIC.   And it's more the characters and story that matter,
anyway, not the animation style.
     I thought Brother Bear was QUITE good (As good as Lilo and
Stitch, anyway) and it could have made a lot more money than it did
(About 81 Mil) if only people weren't so jaded about the animation
style.  It's like they won't even give it a chance now.   I am
thinking maybe Home on the Range will flop, too, just because people
won't give it a chance.

    Then again, I'm sure it won't be long until the 3-D Genre starts
turning out some mediocre Action Flicks, or just straight
*turkeys*... And then maybe people will be more open to traditional
again?

   :o)
~Baltoship

I have been watching Cartoon Network lately (now that I get extended
cable - Yay for me.) and it seems like they don't have that many cool
cartoons on.  I was hoping they would have more classic cartoons and
80s series, but I don't see those on there very often.  And the
... um.. "after hours"  programming... ?   Hmm.. No offense to anyone
but, I HATE those shows !!   I can't believe they put stuff like
Aqua Teen Hunger Force on DVD, when the classic 80s cartoons like The
Mysterious Cities of Gold aren't available anywhere.    It just
doesn't seem *right* !
     Every once in a while they play that Balto promo... "From the
network that brought you.."  so it briefly seems like Cartoon Network
might be cool, but after Family Guy and Futurama, it's just this
long, downhill slide.

:o)
~Baltoship