Just an update. I've relocated my fanfic under the genre of Misc.
Movies. Drop by and give me some feedback.


--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...> wrote:
> I don't know if anyone visits this site anymore, but if so, check out
> my new fanfic at www.fanfiction.net. You can search for author under
> the name eagle_205, with a category of movie crossovers (It's not
> really, but it fills in some gaps in Wolf Quest and ties in some other
> great fanfics). Or if you want to look for title, look for "Balto
> Untold." It's a horrible title, but give it a chance, Please. I'd
> appreciate any feedback.

I don't know if anyone visits this site anymore, but if so, check out
my new fanfic at www.fanfiction.net. You can search for author under
the name eagle_205, with a category of movie crossovers (It's not
really, but it fills in some gaps in Wolf Quest and ties in some other
great fanfics). Or if you want to look for title, look for "Balto
Untold." It's a horrible title, but give it a chance, Please. I'd
appreciate any feedback.

(cross-posted EVERYWHERE)

Hullo, my fellow (hopefully) animal lovers. You may or may not have
heard of this latest rising power in the world of Animal Welfare -
Sue Steinberg.
Her goal? To euthanize and gas 80-90% of all kennel dogs and cats on
the east coast. Already hundreds have been put to death at her hands.
She has been reported to refer to herself as, 'the Dog Hitler.'
Sounds like a lame movie, doesn't it? Unfortunately, she's all too
real and she already has quite a following among shelter workers who
don't want to deal with the guilt of euthanization themselves.
HBO recently aired a 'documentary' on this woman and her work,
putting her on a pedestal as a big-hearted lover of animals.
While I myself did not have the opportunity to see this program, I'm
sure they left out all the puppies put to death because they did not
pass her 'tests.' What 'tests,' you ask? These abandoned animals are
brought to her, bewildered and confused, for her to pass judgment on
them. Right there, on the spot, their future is determined. Almost
all of them fail - Like the six-month old puppy, Oliver who took
food 'too eagerly,' from a handler, a supposed 'sign of later
aggression'. Or the countless dogs who showed fear, timidity, or
hesitation at being put in these strange new environments, some
abused, many having had minimal human contact in their lifetimes.
Steinburg holds seminars in which she passes judgment on animals in
front of an audience, refusing to answer questions and growing
angered at those who attempted to write notes regarded her actions
throughout the seminar.
Ms. Steinburg has been reported to admit that even her own dogs could
not pass her "Assess-a-Pet" test.
She relates personal stories of convincing owners to pass their dogs
on to her, promising them that the dogs will be re-homed, "with the
one and only goal of euthanasia."
Dozens of her employees have left her, sickened by her actions, but
others still rally in her defense, taking comfort in the fact that
they will not have to deal with the deaths of these animals
themselves.

Those of you who are disturbed by this and want to help can write to
Ms. Steinberg at suesteinberg.com, but choose your words carefully as
this woman is suit-happy. If you want more information or would like
to help me with something a bit more discreet, please e-mail me at
either sarawolf77@... or zeki@....
Help stop the slaughter!


~Zeki B.

I actually watched *Balto* on there a few weeks ago! It was so cool.
(Why is it so cool to watch it on TV instead of video?  It's the same
movie, but I guess it feels more "official" to have it on tv..?)
    Today I was looking around the dial and found one of the Land
Before Time sequels on Cartoon Network.  It might have been the
second one - it was one of those early ones where it starts with
the narrator having to give this summary of the dinosaur life and how
they live in the great valley and such.  Seems like the later ones
don't do that.  I guess they figure everyone knows it and is sick of
it already by the 6th sequel.

:o)
~Baltoship

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "eagle_205" <eagle_205@y...>
wrote:
> Check Cartoon Network listings for this weekend. Wolf Quest is going
> to be on finally.
> Eagle_205
>

Check Cartoon Network listings for this weekend. Wolf Quest is going
to be on finally.
Eagle_205

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:
> I have been watching Cartoon Network lately (now that I get extended
> cable - Yay for me.) and it seems like they don't have that many cool
> cartoons on.  I was hoping they would have more classic cartoons and
> 80s series, but I don't see those on there very often.  And the
> ... um.. "after hours"  programming... ?   Hmm.. No offense to anyone
> but, I HATE those shows !!   I can't believe they put stuff like
> Aqua Teen Hunger Force on DVD, when the classic 80s cartoons like The
> Mysterious Cities of Gold aren't available anywhere.    It just
> doesn't seem *right* !
>     Every once in a while they play that Balto promo... "From the
> network that brought you.."  so it briefly seems like Cartoon Network
> might be cool, but after Family Guy and Futurama, it's just this
> long, downhill slide.
>
> :o)
> ~Baltoship

> I actually heard the news months ago.  It's sad, but it's going to
> happen.

**I had hoped that Brother Bear might do well enough to change
peoples' minds... :o(

   However, there may be hope in the form of Pixar, once they
> finally split from Disney.  I hear that they plan partner with
> another studio (the name eludes me right now), and work on
> traditional animation.

  **oooh, really ?!   That would be SO cool !!

  As for Disney, I don't see them succeeding
> much without Pixar.  So it's a matter of time as you say, before
they
> re-explore tradition animation (don't know if it'll be cell or
> digital though).

**It seems like people are wowed by 3-D, though.  Finding Nemo was
pretty, uh... "simple" in terms of plot - moreso than any of their
previous movies.  But it's so pretty and the imagery is original, and
I think that is why people were impressed with it.  If it had been 2-
D, I think it would have been much less popular, and people might
have knocked it for looking too much like The Little Mermaid.
   Brother Bear, too- If it had been 3-D, I bet it would have made
gobs of money.
    Of course, right now it's hard to separate what is actually
appreciated in these films vs. what the audience will trust enough to
risk their money on.   With 3-D around now, too, it kind of makes 2-D
films look.. "cartoony" I guess, so people are especially more likely
to go for All-CGI movies.
     I think Pixar could pull of really good 2-D movies, though, and
people would trust them enough to go see them.   Disney... hmm...
Hopefully Lilo and Stitch and Brother Bear are indications that they
are getting *away* from the Atlantis/Treasure Planet THING, and if
they went 3-D, they could even make lame movies (maybe) and they
might still be popular since people are so in the CGI mood now.
    It will get stale after a while though, for sure.

>
> As for traditional animation, it's not completely dead.  Maybe
> American studios have forgotten it at the moment, but there is
still
> animation to the East.  Very good animation.  Even if some people
> cringe at the name, anime, I do believe there is a series or movie
> for everyone.  So while waiting out the American storm, you could
> always turn to Japan for your entertainment values. ^_^;

   **I am one of the (few, I guess?) people who has not gotten into
Anime.  I did not think much of Princess Mononoke or Spirited Away.
They are lovely and artsy and all but... I like a movie that explains
its stuff and doesn't leave all the... "mystery."  Too often with
Miyazaki, there are just all these unanswered questions.  It needs a
touch of Shyamalan, perhaps, lol.
>
> As for Brother Bear, I thought it was a pretty good movie.  I went
to
> go see it on opening day.  I think it would have done better if it
> had been a summer release, and not a fall one.  November is a
> terrible time for movies.  December isn't much better, as they tend
> to be all lumped together and released around the same time.

   **Yeah, and it also came after two really BIG movies, (Nemo and
Pirates) and maybe that cursed it with the "Hopes Up/Disappointment
Effect," a la Pocahontas..?
    Yes, winter is not a good time for a movie like that.  Maybe they
thought it would fit better because it's kind of a wintry movie with
snow and ice, but summer would have been WAY better.

:o)
~Baltoship

I actually heard the news months ago.  It's sad, but it's going to
happen.  However, there may be hope in the form of Pixar, once they
finally split from Disney.  I hear that they plan partner with
another studio (the name eludes me right now), and work on
traditional animation.  As for Disney, I don't see them succeeding
much without Pixar.  So it's a matter of time as you say, before they
re-explore tradition animation (don't know if it'll be cell or
digital though).

As for traditional animation, it's not completely dead.  Maybe
American studios have forgotten it at the moment, but there is still
animation to the East.  Very good animation.  Even if some people
cringe at the name, anime, I do believe there is a series or movie
for everyone.  So while waiting out the American storm, you could
always turn to Japan for your entertainment values. ^_^;

As for Brother Bear, I thought it was a pretty good movie.  I went to
go see it on opening day.  I think it would have done better if it
had been a summer release, and not a fall one.  November is a
terrible time for movies.  December isn't much better, as they tend
to be all lumped together and released around the same time.

~Silver  Huskey
--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...>
wrote:
> Well, it's really sad, but I guess Feature Quality 2-D animation is
> going to go into hibernation (Ok, NO MORE Bear Puns.  I promise.  I
> know we're all sick of them),
> or at least take a break for a while after Home on the Range.
>
>  I am totally saddened by this, and mad, and surprised.  And other
> things.  But mainly just sad.  Now, I do think that 2-D will come
> back eventually, like maybe after people get tired of 3-D and want
> something new, but probably only in a limited fashion.  I think
part
> of the reason this happened was the Attack of the Disney Sequels.
>    Ok, it was mainly how craptacular most of the recent 2-D
pictures
> have been, but I think the mass production of so many lame sequels
in
> a row had something to do with it.
> (I don't really blame Balto 2 for this, since it was not as
> commercialized, and only the Balto fans really know it exists.)
>
>   But I think people have learned now to associate 2-D with either:
>
> 1. Lame movies
>
> or
>
> 2. Cheap sequels
>
>    I think it is a little ironic that Disney's recent love affair
> with horrible sequels might have had a small part in the "death" of
> traditional animation, something they were pioneers in.
>
>    I like the 3-D movies also, but traditional animation is just
> so... CLASSIC.   And it's more the characters and story that
matter,
> anyway, not the animation style.
>     I thought Brother Bear was QUITE good (As good as Lilo and
> Stitch, anyway) and it could have made a lot more money than it did
> (About 81 Mil) if only people weren't so jaded about the animation
> style.  It's like they won't even give it a chance now.   I am
> thinking maybe Home on the Range will flop, too, just because
people
> won't give it a chance.
>
>    Then again, I'm sure it won't be long until the 3-D Genre starts
> turning out some mediocre Action Flicks, or just straight
> *turkeys*... And then maybe people will be more open to traditional
> again?
>
>   :o)
> ~Baltoship

Well, it's really sad, but I guess Feature Quality 2-D animation is
going to go into hibernation (Ok, NO MORE Bear Puns.  I promise.  I
know we're all sick of them),
or at least take a break for a while after Home on the Range.

  I am totally saddened by this, and mad, and surprised.  And other
things.  But mainly just sad.  Now, I do think that 2-D will come
back eventually, like maybe after people get tired of 3-D and want
something new, but probably only in a limited fashion.  I think part
of the reason this happened was the Attack of the Disney Sequels.
    Ok, it was mainly how craptacular most of the recent 2-D pictures
have been, but I think the mass production of so many lame sequels in
a row had something to do with it.
(I don't really blame Balto 2 for this, since it was not as
commercialized, and only the Balto fans really know it exists.)

   But I think people have learned now to associate 2-D with either:

1. Lame movies

or

2. Cheap sequels

    I think it is a little ironic that Disney's recent love affair
with horrible sequels might have had a small part in the "death" of
traditional animation, something they were pioneers in.

    I like the 3-D movies also, but traditional animation is just
so... CLASSIC.   And it's more the characters and story that matter,
anyway, not the animation style.
     I thought Brother Bear was QUITE good (As good as Lilo and
Stitch, anyway) and it could have made a lot more money than it did
(About 81 Mil) if only people weren't so jaded about the animation
style.  It's like they won't even give it a chance now.   I am
thinking maybe Home on the Range will flop, too, just because people
won't give it a chance.

    Then again, I'm sure it won't be long until the 3-D Genre starts
turning out some mediocre Action Flicks, or just straight
*turkeys*... And then maybe people will be more open to traditional
again?

   :o)
~Baltoship

I have been watching Cartoon Network lately (now that I get extended
cable - Yay for me.) and it seems like they don't have that many cool
cartoons on.  I was hoping they would have more classic cartoons and
80s series, but I don't see those on there very often.  And the
... um.. "after hours"  programming... ?   Hmm.. No offense to anyone
but, I HATE those shows !!   I can't believe they put stuff like
Aqua Teen Hunger Force on DVD, when the classic 80s cartoons like The
Mysterious Cities of Gold aren't available anywhere.    It just
doesn't seem *right* !
     Every once in a while they play that Balto promo... "From the
network that brought you.."  so it briefly seems like Cartoon Network
might be cool, but after Family Guy and Futurama, it's just this
long, downhill slide.

:o)
~Baltoship

Welcome to the group !!  Please feel free to post about anything.  I
would love to get a Balto discussion going, but people haven't
replied much to my posts in the pasts.

    I see we have our very first SPAM message to the group.   (It is
the first one, right?)    Well at least it's Online dating and not
porn.

:o)
~Baltoship

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <markpast2006@y...>
wrote:
> Hey all, wassup? My name is Mark and I am obviously new to this
club.
> Thats about it for me.
>                -Mark

Hey all, wassup? My name is Mark and I am obviously new to this club.
Thats about it for me.
                -Mark

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I would wager more along the lines of the original litter.


--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...>
wrote:
> They say this thing is going to be about Balto's *son*?   Did I
hear
> that right?
>
>   If that is so, I wonder if it is going to be from a second
litter
> of pups?  Or will they use one of the siblings from the first
litter
> and just.. catch up to him now that he's grown?
>
> Myself, I just hope they have learned from the mistakes of Balto 2
> and will make the 3rd one better.  Budget may necessitate shoddy
> animation, but a well written script costs the same as a bad one!
>
> :o)
> ~Baltoship

They say this thing is going to be about Balto's *son*?   Did I hear
that right?

   If that is so, I wonder if it is going to be from a second litter
of pups?  Or will they use one of the siblings from the first litter
and just.. catch up to him now that he's grown?

Myself, I just hope they have learned from the mistakes of Balto 2
and will make the 3rd one better.  Budget may necessitate shoddy
animation, but a well written script costs the same as a bad one!

:o)
~Baltoship

... you
> know, the one with cow blood mixed with Lars Ulrich's... load.

**EEEYYYYYYEWWWW !!!!!!   :o)
>
> Whenever I go for a long time without seeing Balto 2, or at least
not
> seeing it in motion, I begin to wonder whether it isn't really
*that*
> bad.>
> Then I see it again, and all doubt is laid to rest.

**Yes, I've noticed you can actually "help" Balto 2 by not watching
Balto for a really long time (like several months at least) and then
watching B2 for an impromptu thing.   I guess it helps to be in Balto
withdrawal because it gets you feeling more open to accepting him in
any form, even cheaply produced, poorly animated non-Balto.

(And AGAIN I say... If it LOOKED like him, I wouldn't complain.  I
mean, it's a sequel, so you know there are going to be fewer drawings
overall... But that character does not even look like Balto beyond
having *approximately* the same color arrangement.  And THAT I
complain about !!   You can look at *ANY* lame Disney sequel, and at
least the characters will *look* as they did in the original movie.)
>
> Seeing it right after Balto, though... it's like night and day,
that's
> how different they are.

    **I have never actually done this (and don't want to) so I'll have
to take your word for it.  XD

:o)
~Baltoship



Eminem and Elton John, matter and
> antimatter... Good and Evil.

LOL.   I would say that Balto 2 lost its Antimatter containment.
>

Did you at least get a chance to tape Balto this time, Ag? ^^;

As for me, I missed the special altogether.  I blame life, why
doesn't free time ever come about on days off?  >_<

Oh, and i'm finally back from my long absence!  No school= more free
time to post.  For the time being anyway. :)

~Silver Huskey

It was kinda like looking at the original Mona Lisa and then looking
at the CD cover art for Metallica's "Load" right afterwards... you
know, the one with cow blood mixed with Lars Ulrich's... load.

Whenever I go for a long time without seeing Balto 2, or at least not
seeing it in motion, I begin to wonder whether it isn't really *that*
bad.

Then I see it again, and all doubt is laid to rest.

Seeing it right after Balto, though... it's like night and day, that's
how different they are. Eminem and Elton John, matter and
antimatter... Good and Evil.

-a

Aw, you can always find /something/ to nitpick about! Hell, don't
nitpick, just hang around here and talk! Remember, off-topic is both
allowed and encouraged in these here parts. </redneck>

lol

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "Shadow Glyph" <sparf1@y...>
wrote:
> Baltoship's been lonely here! C'mon guys! Poooooost?

Sorry, I've decided to take a hiatus from bashing the hell out of
Balto 2 until I can think of something I havn't said yet. :P

Baltoship's been lonely here! C'mon guys! Poooooost?

Snowglobes...invading...mind.....*grabs head* MUST STOP sHAKING
MENTAL SNOWGLOBES!

Anyways, I don't think I could bear to part with the snowglobe just
for a petty thing like living. WE're all gonna die of something
anyway, so just enjoy the ride.

Hi Everybody !

("Hi, Dr. Nick !!")

   So what do I have for you all today, you're all wondering?  Well,
look at this thing !!:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=3221100050&category=1532

   It is so pretty !  I would bid on it but... see that facial mask?
This supports what I have always suspected, that they must have
changed his face pattern late in the production.  That looks like an
animation drawing to me !

   Is it just me or do Muk plushies seem to sell for cheap?   Does no
one like Muk?

   OH, and did you all see that Balto snowglobe at eBAY ??
SNOWGLOBE !!   I mean, WOW !  I would provide a link, but eBay's
stupid retarded Completed Items Search is not working.  I just know
it was SOHHH beautiful and it was at $42 the last time I looked at
it.  Does it make any sense to invest money into making complicated
snowglobes and then only make enough of them to give to the Balto
production staff?

     Hey..If you were really thirsty.. let's say you were wandering
around in the desert and you didn't have any water, and instead of a
canteen, you accidentally brought your Balto snowglobe..?  Would you
break the snowglobe and drink the water?
    Ok, but let's say the nearest water was like, a 48 h-- no.. ok...
a 24 hour walk through sand dunes and really hot sunshine. So, it
wouldn't be enough to KILL you, probably, but it would be enough so
that you'd be really really uncomfortable.
   THEN would you break it to drink the water?

Ok, but if the snowglobe is made of glass (And, let's say it is.  I
mean, I *assume* it is.)  Then if you break it, wouldn't you get
little glass shards in the water, so if you drank it, you might risk
getting glass in your digestive tract?   Plus, how could you do it
without drinking all the little fake snow pieces inside it?  And are
they non-toxic?  What if they're asbestos or something?
    Well, I guess you could wait until all the snow settles and *then*
break it and somehow drain all the water out into another container
and like, somehow strain out all the asbestos snow...

Ok..THEN would you still do it?   How long a walk to water would it
have to take to get you to break your Balto snowglobe and drink the
water, glass shards and potentially harmful fake-snow pieces and
all?  (BTW, is the water inside a snowglobe even *potable* drinking
water to begin with?)

Is that a good question?  Maybe I should make up a poll.

     Ok, but do you really think that's a good idea?  I mean, couldn't
your Balto snowglobe serve you better as a snowglobe?  If you're lost
in the desert and you're slowly overheating and dehydrating, wouldn't
it be really *emotionally* soothing to shake up your Balto snowglobe
and look at all the snow flurries flying around and imagine yourself
nice and cool in Alaska instead of in the desert?  That would help
calm you down and keep your spirits up to make it out of the desert.
(What's more uplifting than shaking up a snowglobe?  I ask you.)
     And if you broke the snowglobe, you couldn't do that anymore,
PLUS you would be destroying your really rare and special Balto
collectible.  So that would hurt you mentally and emotionally, so
even if you drank the water and got hydrated, maybe you would just
end up sort of.. "breaking even" because you would help your physical
being, but hurt your emotional fortitude.   So wouldn't you be better
off NOT breaking the snowglobe??


   Think about it.
:o)
~Baltoship

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "Shadow Glyph" <sparf1@y...>
wrote:
> That is a strange trend. Why is it you that gets to notice all teh
> cool stuff around here? Maybe it's beacause I've been an absentee
> founder. -_-;

    Or maybe it's because I'm just... really, *really* cool !!!   "Ta-
DAHH!!  Look at me, I'm Baltoship !!   YEAH !!"
     Hmh.  Sorry... I guess I have grandiose delusions of
coolness.  :o)
>
> I'm really sorry, Baltoship, I know how hard you work here to keep
> conversations up and running. I really appreciate it.

      I stopped posting for a while because I came to this epiphany
thing where I counted all the posts and realized half of them were
mine, so out of curiosity (Uh.. and the acknowledgement that it's
considered crazy to be posting to oneself...) I decided to take a
break from posting and see what would happen.  I was partly afraid
the sanctuary would die, but then I figured that even if we are only
semi-active, The Sanctuary is still a hundred times over more active
than most of the other Balto clubs that have died on the table.

> And Welcome, Trash! THanks for posting! Make a habit of it, maybe?

   I KNOW.. It is like sweet, sweet candy when someone new posts,
especially to bring up an interesting *topic*.

    I did not know how to respond to NightTracker's leaving
message.... I did not consider it a great loss, as she never posted.
I find it a paradoxical thingie that pretty much the only time she
posted was to post that she would be leaving and not posting anymore.
   Hm...

>
> *sighs*
> Sorry again for being away, two months of life-crap have been
taking
> their toll on me.

     I am hoping new members will scroll back in the messages and
maybe pick up on some of the topics I have raised in the past.  I am
running out of material and there was some good stuff back there !
    I hope you will post more often, too, Sparfy.  It has been quiet
around here without you!  I get bored when all I have to keep me
company is the voices in my head.

Hee hee..
:o)
~Baltoship
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...>
> wrote:
> >   I can't remember if I've mentioned this before (knowing me, I
> > have.) but did you ever notice that Balto 2 is only called "Balto
> 2"
> > on the *cover*?  When you start watching it, the title comes up
> > as "Balto: Wolf Quest" with no number designation.
> >    Could this mean that they intend to make a whole lot of them?
> > I only mention it because they have recently re-released all the
> > Lands Before Time ("Land Before Times"?) and they have taken all
> the
> > numbers off them... I guess because seeing really *high* numbers
> > makes them seem cheap and shlocky.   Giving them no numbers makes
> > them seem genuinely like serial adventures, and prevents the
> public
> > from ranking them numerically ("The evens are always bad."  "They
> get
> > worse and worse as the numbers get bigger."  etc.)
> >    So when it's over, we're left with a bunch of seemingly random
> > dino adventures that have no beginning and no end.  (Is that
> good?  I
> > don't even know.)  I think the plan is that, without the numbers
> to
> > help them, people will forget which order they came in, and be
> > equally likely to rent *all* of them. (Terrifying notion, that.)
> >
> >     Also... Haven't those dinos logged in enough hours to make
> > it "The Land *During* Time"  yet?
> >
> >    Anyway I noticed even the first time I watched B2 that the "2"
> is
> > mysteriously absent in the actual movie.  Maybe they left it out
> just
> > to give it a more "respectable feeling" and avoid the Disney
trend
> > of "2"s.... But it is still on the cover, so I don't get it...
> >
> > :o)
> > ~Baltoship

That is a strange trend. Why is it you that gets to notice all teh
cool stuff around here? Maybe it's beacause I've been an absentee
founder. -_-;

I'm really sorry, Baltoship, I know how hard you work here to keep
conversations up and running. I really appreciate it.
And Welcome, Trash! THanks for posting! Make a habit of it, maybe?
Bring some friends? Who knows, hehe. BUt it's fun fun here.
Yessirreee bobarooney.

*sighs*
Sorry again for being away, two months of life-crap have been taking
their toll on me.





--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship" <cawcawcaw@e...>
wrote:
>   I can't remember if I've mentioned this before (knowing me, I
> have.) but did you ever notice that Balto 2 is only called "Balto
2"
> on the *cover*?  When you start watching it, the title comes up
> as "Balto: Wolf Quest" with no number designation.
>    Could this mean that they intend to make a whole lot of them?
> I only mention it because they have recently re-released all the
> Lands Before Time ("Land Before Times"?) and they have taken all
the
> numbers off them... I guess because seeing really *high* numbers
> makes them seem cheap and shlocky.   Giving them no numbers makes
> them seem genuinely like serial adventures, and prevents the
public
> from ranking them numerically ("The evens are always bad."  "They
get
> worse and worse as the numbers get bigger."  etc.)
>    So when it's over, we're left with a bunch of seemingly random
> dino adventures that have no beginning and no end.  (Is that
good?  I
> don't even know.)  I think the plan is that, without the numbers
to
> help them, people will forget which order they came in, and be
> equally likely to rent *all* of them. (Terrifying notion, that.)
>
>     Also... Haven't those dinos logged in enough hours to make
> it "The Land *During* Time"  yet?
>
>    Anyway I noticed even the first time I watched B2 that the "2"
is
> mysteriously absent in the actual movie.  Maybe they left it out
just
> to give it a more "respectable feeling" and avoid the Disney trend
> of "2"s.... But it is still on the cover, so I don't get it...
>
> :o)
> ~Baltoship

I can't remember if I've mentioned this before (knowing me, I
have.) but did you ever notice that Balto 2 is only called "Balto 2"
on the *cover*?  When you start watching it, the title comes up
as "Balto: Wolf Quest" with no number designation.
    Could this mean that they intend to make a whole lot of them?
I only mention it because they have recently re-released all the
Lands Before Time ("Land Before Times"?) and they have taken all the
numbers off them... I guess because seeing really *high* numbers
makes them seem cheap and shlocky.   Giving them no numbers makes
them seem genuinely like serial adventures, and prevents the public
from ranking them numerically ("The evens are always bad."  "They get
worse and worse as the numbers get bigger."  etc.)
    So when it's over, we're left with a bunch of seemingly random
dino adventures that have no beginning and no end.  (Is that good?  I
don't even know.)  I think the plan is that, without the numbers to
help them, people will forget which order they came in, and be
equally likely to rent *all* of them. (Terrifying notion, that.)

     Also... Haven't those dinos logged in enough hours to make
it "The Land *During* Time"  yet?

    Anyway I noticed even the first time I watched B2 that the "2" is
mysteriously absent in the actual movie.  Maybe they left it out just
to give it a more "respectable feeling" and avoid the Disney trend
of "2"s.... But it is still on the cover, so I don't get it...

:o)
~Baltoship

Yes, I have heard that about all the Star Trek movies, too.   There
are always a couple exceptions, though, so maybe that throws off the
pattern and it's all just a random thing.   I have noticed that,
depending on which *kind* of Trek movie a person likes, they may go
the other way and say that the evens tend to be better than the odds.
    I think I am just one of the random people, as I disliked 1 and 3,
but I also *liked* 5 (lol..isn't 5 always everyone's exception?) but
disliked 6 (I never like movies where people get framed... It's just
too unfair !) I thought Generations was *ok*, but I absolutely HATED
First Contact !!!
    Seems like a lot of people consider that one of the best ones -
for me it's one of the worst.  And again I am the exception in that I
really liked 9 (Insurrection).  I feel like the only person in the
galaxy who actually liked Star Treks 5 and 9.   I liked 10 as well,
so there does not seem to be a pattern for it with me.

    The only unanimously valid concept I have found in the Star Trek
universe would have to be the complaints about the Next Gen movies
being:  "The Data and Picard Show"   They need to give that a rest.
I know the Captain is always supposed to get first billing, but Data
has had too much time in the sun I think.  It's to the point where
you're left wondering what happened to the rest of the crew.

     Myself, I am perfectly comfortable with the older pattern
sequels, but I have had it up to here with the newer, trendy
sequels.  Now they are even making sequels to the WORST, crappiest
movies, or the fluffy, filler movies at best.   There was a time when
a non-horror movie had to be an Oscar winner or a really popular
blockbuster to earn a sequel... And what do we have now?

   Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle:  More T & A, and it Takes 10
Minutes for a Gasoline Truck to Fall Down a Dam.  (And does this mean
we get to start calling the first one, "Half Throttle"??)

    I suppose the upside is that, in all the sequel fanaticism, Balto
got one.  Still, I wish we could trade in our Cinderella 2 and
Hunchback 2 and Tarzan 2 and composite that filmmaking energy into at
least *one* solid movie...

:o)
~Baltoship

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <trash80_au@y...> wrote:
> --- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship <cawcawcaw@e...>"
> <cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:
>
> >    I bet the third one is going to be better.  Maybe they will
> > start a number-omen thing where the odd ones will be better than
> > the even ones.  They say that's the case with Land Before Time...
> > Though I haven't researched that in any depth...
>
> Well, I found that this is the case with the Star Trek movie
> series.  The odd ones were always better as far as I'm concerned
> (I:Motion Picture III:Search For Spock, VII:Generations).  Although
> I didn't particularly like the fifth movie.  The ending lacked
depth.
>
> So, there you have it.  Here's two cents from a member who's never
> posted here before.
>
> *ignores the stares from other members*
>
> "It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead Jim, dead Jim!  It's
> worse than that he's dead, Jim, he's dead, Jim, he's DEAD!"
>
> -Trash80

--- In baltosanctuary@yahoogroups.com, "baltoship <cawcawcaw@e...>"
<cawcawcaw@e...> wrote:

>    I bet the third one is going to be better.  Maybe they will
> start a number-omen thing where the odd ones will be better than
> the even ones.  They say that's the case with Land Before Time...
> Though I haven't researched that in any depth...

Well, I found that this is the case with the Star Trek movie
series.  The odd ones were always better as far as I'm concerned
(I:Motion Picture III:Search For Spock, VII:Generations).  Although
I didn't particularly like the fifth movie.  The ending lacked depth.

So, there you have it.  Here's two cents from a member who's never
posted here before.

*ignores the stares from other members*

"It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead Jim, dead Jim!  It's
worse than that he's dead, Jim, he's dead, Jim, he's DEAD!"

-Trash80

im leaving alot of my groups again guys, and sadly, this one is one
of them *Hugs everyone* sorry guys, but with my time being well, not
there as of late, and I never really wanna post here anyways.. sorry
again, perhaps ill see you guys again someday! ^_^

NightTracker,
DarkWolf of your Nightmares

*Vanishes*

> I don't have a Balto site, because I don't think I could put
anything
> up on a Balto website that hasn't already been put up on all of the
> ones that already exist.

**This is true... Part of the reason I haven't made one, either.
There are a lot of great ones.  Someday I would like to get good
enough at drawing Balto to try animating him -- that's what I would
put up at a site (only to have it stolen, I'm sure.  :o(  )   I'm too
busy working on other stuff right now-- I don't even have time to do
fanart!


>
> I have no Balto fanart, because I havn't drawn any.

    **It's not easy.  Jenna is really hard to draw because she is
so "perfect" and angular (especially the muzzle- Oy !) and Balto is
so.... Mmm.   I say Balto is "slippery" because he is drawn rather
loosely in the movie and so it's hard to capture the Balto-ness of
him in fanart.  I MUST win those Xeroxes at ebay one of these days--
They sold for around $50 (!!!) last time, and I think that is just
too much to pay for Xerox copies !  I mean, the seller can make as
many as he wants, and they're going for $50??  Then there is Steele,
whose face changes drastically throughout the film.  Good luck
drawing *him* !

>
> I do have a little gallery for my "art", if you can call it that:
> http://www.charlo.com/art ... beware, it sucks.

    **It's cute !   So you like Pokemon, huh?  I do, too.  People
laugh at me because I'm 25 and actually like the show  (Ahem.  And
have several dozen battle figures...)  One time my brother (27) was
asking me what attacks Chikorita has, and he was really horrified
that I could actually answer.
     I think I am supposed to be embarrassed about that, but... jeez,
Pokemon are just too cutesy-poo to dislike.  Especially the soft,
unevolved ones.
    How can anyone not love Togepi??   He's the best.

:o)
~Baltoship
>