can we now get back to talking smack about each other's preferred
products?

...sounds like 2 men fighting over who has the largest bucket on a
sinking ship...



and yes. that ship being Avid.



Marc




On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Gus <gustheeditor@...> wrote:
>
> <<Please don't stereotype the DS Community by letting the words of a
> few be taken as representative of the DS Community as a whole. >>
>
> Fair enough Gus, please except my apology.
>
>
>

Marc Fisher
cav2ya@...





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30I source.
Mostly talking heads, so didn't notice the herky jerky.
No access to a symphony, so I guess it's no sleep this weekend.

Thanks
Mark


On 11/6/09 7:47 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> I'm confused, was your original source 23.98 on a 29.97 frame tape? If
> so, and you followed the proper cadence, then you actually have a
> proper 23.98 master. If you have access to a Symphony you can output
> it as a 30 frame conversion without any problems.
>
> If your sources were not 23.98, how come you didn't notice them being
> herky jerky in the movement?
>
> Next option is to go the EDL route. You will lose effects, titles,
> etc. But all of your shots will be there and motion effects and
> dissolves should be there for the most part. I have to admit, I've
> never gone in the 23.98 to 30 direction via edl before. Just follow
> Michael Philips' directions in reverse.
>
> http://24p.com/30_24.htm <http://24p.com/30_24.htm>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Mark Myers <MarkM@...> wrote:
> >
> > This project also has significant amounts of Avid pan&scan work.
> > Am I hosed and looking at an all weekend, all night re-edit, or is
> there
> > some way to save my dumb ass?
> >
> > I need to get this out to 30I DVCam for air at a local station, and
> it's
> > a 60 program.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mark
> >
> > On 11/6/09 7:07 PM, Mark Myers wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Need some help fixing a stupid mistake. Should have realized what was
> > > going on when I couldn't get a DV signal out of the avid.
> > >
> > > Shot major project in DVCam, 30i. Just discovered that like an
> idiot, I
> > > created a 23.97P project and did the edit.
> > >
> > > Anyone know of a good way to convert? I really don't want to reedit
> > > visually. I can probably get an edl over through the edl manager,
> but how
> > > accurate will this be?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for helping with my stupidity.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > S.R. Productions
> > > 195 W Broad St
> > > Salunga PA 17538
> > > 717-393-5504 / Cell 717-203-0976
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Owner/Director
> > S.R. Film & Video
> > 195 W Broad St
> > Salunga PA 17538
> >
> >
> > Cinematography, Still Photography, Copy Writing,
> > Post Production, Web Hosting & Design
> >
> > Office: 717-393-5504 ex 142
> > Cell: 717-203-0976
> > Fax: 717-393-1833
> >
> > www.SR-Pro.com <http://www.sr-pro.com/ <http://www.sr-pro.com/>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

--
Owner/Director
S.R. Film & Video
195 W Broad St
Salunga PA  17538


Cinematography, Still Photography, Copy Writing,
Post Production, Web Hosting & Design

Office: 717-393-5504  ex 142
Cell: 717-203-0976
Fax: 717-393-1833

www.SR-Pro.com <http://www.sr-pro.com/>




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--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Gus <gustheeditor@...> wrote:


<<Please don't stereotype the DS Community by letting the words of a few be
taken as representative of the DS Community as a whole. >>

      Fair enough Gus, please except my apology.

You can right click and compress just about anything in OSX leopard.

RT

On Nov 6, 2009, at 1:31 PM, John Moore <bigfish@...> wrote:

> I just stuffed a QT using DropStuff to a .zip file.  To test it on
> my edit computer I clicked on the .zip file and it launched Archive
> Utility which unstuffed the file.  Is this Archive Utility standard
> on Macs?  Still finding all kind of things now that I'm Mac SNDX.
>
> John Moore
>
> Barking Trout Productions
>
> Studio City, CA
>
> bigfish@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Those are the correct numbers I got from Sony too.  On an SR-5500 the menu is
called HDCAM VANC PACKET SELECT.  I was also informed that the 5500 deck only
plays back line 09 and not 572.  This came up because I know someone having
issues trying to clone a CC'd HDCam master using a JH3 deck as the playback
source to the SR-5500 record deck.  The resulting dub has gibberishy characters
repeated etc  on the CC.  Their work around is to just make the clone through
their CC inserter and all is well.  According to Sony the JH3 plays back both
line 09 and 572 and this can cause issues on some decoders.  The suggestion was
to zero out the line2 572 to 0 and see if that clears up the clones CC info.  I
couldn't confirm if line 2 572 is just duplicate info much like the two lines of
VITC in SD but that's what I think it is.  Love to know for sure.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, bcarroll@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you so much for your input. Knowing that it was a deck issue rather than
an Avid MC issue got me looking in the right direction. A search turned up a
couple of posts that all lead to a post at the Cow
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/98/865858 which had the correct procedure.
>
> Enter the maintenance menu:
>
> 1/ Alt - f9
>
> 2/ MAINT MODE/OTHERS/VANC RX PARAMETER
>
> (For 708 Compliant CC)
>
> Line 1 Line 2 DID SDID
> 009    572    61  01
>
> 3/ Don't blank any lines
>
> This appears to be working correctly now with our Adrenaline HD system. Next
I've got to give it a try with our Mojo DX system which is supposed to work as
well.
>
> This list is the best!
>
> Regards,
> Bob Carroll
>
> Producer/Director
> KVCR-DT (PBS)
> 701 S. Mt. Vernon Ave.
> San Bernardino, CA 92410
> 909-384-4334
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > A little chat with Sony clarified what might be your problem.  According to
Sony the deck will always output the anc. data but will only record it if a menu
is enabled.  For an SR-5500 it's in the maintenance menu section and the 1800 as
well.  For a 5500 take a breath and go;
> > Shift Diagnostic, Shift Maintenance, Others, Alt, MetaData, F3 HDCam,then F1
is line 9 and F2 is line 572.  There is a choice DID, SDID.  That should enable
the recording of anc data.  I'm not sure what the DID or SDID choice should be,
but they are types of metadata.  I'll have to do some more research on that. 
Perhaps one of our more savey CC experts can chime in.  The path is similar on
the 1800 consult your manual.  Unfortunately I don't have a machine in front of
me to play along.  HTH
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is a menu on the SR-5500 dealing with blanking where the anc. data
is.  You might consult the manual or contact Sony to make sure your not blanking
where the anc. data is put.  I believe it's around line 8 but sense you can't
see it like SD closed captioning you need a decoder to tell if it's there and
being maintained.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, bcarroll@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure someone on this list is actually doing this on a daily basis
and can explain the workflow in plain English. I'm running MC 4.0.3 and own one
Sony HDW-D1800 deck. I get my Closed Caption master tape back from the caption
house and want to make copies of it for distribution. I should be able to
capture it into the Avid via HD-SDI with the Ancillary Data Option turned on in
the Media Creation Settings and then dump it back to another tape with the
captions preserved. Apparently I'm doing something wrong as the copy has no
captions. Thoughts? Thanks in advance for any insight into what I'm missing.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bob Carroll
> > > >
> > > > Producer/Director
> > > > KVCR-DT (PBS)
> > > > 701 S. Mt. Vernon Ave.
> > > > San Bernardino, CA 92410
> > > > 909-384-4334
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I'm confused, was your original source 23.98 on a 29.97 frame tape? If so, and
you followed the proper cadence, then you actually have a proper 23.98 master.
If you have access to a Symphony you can output it as a 30 frame conversion
without any problems.

If your sources were not 23.98, how come you didn't notice them being herky
jerky in the movement?

Next option is to go the EDL route. You will lose effects, titles, etc. But all
of your shots will be there and motion effects and dissolves should be there for
the most part. I have to admit, I've never gone in the 23.98 to 30 direction via
edl before. Just follow Michael Philips' directions in reverse.

http://24p.com/30_24.htm

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Mark Myers <MarkM@...> wrote:
>
> This project also has significant amounts of Avid pan&scan work.
> Am I hosed and looking at an all weekend, all night re-edit, or is there
> some way to save my dumb ass?
>
> I need to get this out to 30I DVCam for air at a local station, and it's
> a 60 program.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>
> On 11/6/09 7:07 PM, Mark Myers wrote:
> >
> >
> > Need some help fixing a stupid mistake. Should have realized what was
> > going on when I couldn't get a DV signal out of the avid.
> >
> > Shot major project in DVCam, 30i. Just discovered that like an idiot, I
> > created a 23.97P project and did the edit.
> >
> > Anyone know of a good way to convert? I really don't want to reedit
> > visually. I can probably get an edl over through the edl manager, but how
> > accurate will this be?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for helping with my stupidity.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --
> >
> > S.R. Productions
> > 195 W Broad St
> > Salunga PA 17538
> > 717-393-5504 / Cell 717-203-0976
> >
> >
>
> --
> Owner/Director
> S.R. Film & Video
> 195 W Broad St
> Salunga PA  17538
>
>
> Cinematography, Still Photography, Copy Writing,
> Post Production, Web Hosting & Design
>
> Office: 717-393-5504  ex 142
> Cell: 717-203-0976
> Fax: 717-393-1833
>
> www.SR-Pro.com <http://www.sr-pro.com/>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thank you so much for your input. Knowing that it was a deck issue rather than
an Avid MC issue got me looking in the right direction. A search turned up a
couple of posts that all lead to a post at the Cow
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/98/865858 which had the correct procedure.

Enter the maintenance menu:

1/ Alt - f9

2/ MAINT MODE/OTHERS/VANC RX PARAMETER

(For 708 Compliant CC)

Line 1 Line 2 DID SDID
009    572    61  01

3/ Don't blank any lines

This appears to be working correctly now with our Adrenaline HD system. Next
I've got to give it a try with our Mojo DX system which is supposed to work as
well.

This list is the best!

Regards,
Bob Carroll

Producer/Director
KVCR-DT (PBS)
701 S. Mt. Vernon Ave.
San Bernardino, CA 92410
909-384-4334

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> A little chat with Sony clarified what might be your problem.  According to
Sony the deck will always output the anc. data but will only record it if a menu
is enabled.  For an SR-5500 it's in the maintenance menu section and the 1800 as
well.  For a 5500 take a breath and go;
> Shift Diagnostic, Shift Maintenance, Others, Alt, MetaData, F3 HDCam,then F1
is line 9 and F2 is line 572.  There is a choice DID, SDID.  That should enable
the recording of anc data.  I'm not sure what the DID or SDID choice should be,
but they are types of metadata.  I'll have to do some more research on that. 
Perhaps one of our more savey CC experts can chime in.  The path is similar on
the 1800 consult your manual.  Unfortunately I don't have a machine in front of
me to play along.  HTH
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > There is a menu on the SR-5500 dealing with blanking where the anc. data is.
You might consult the manual or contact Sony to make sure your not blanking
where the anc. data is put.  I believe it's around line 8 but sense you can't
see it like SD closed captioning you need a decoder to tell if it's there and
being maintained.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, bcarroll@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm sure someone on this list is actually doing this on a daily basis and
can explain the workflow in plain English. I'm running MC 4.0.3 and own one Sony
HDW-D1800 deck. I get my Closed Caption master tape back from the caption house
and want to make copies of it for distribution. I should be able to capture it
into the Avid via HD-SDI with the Ancillary Data Option turned on in the Media
Creation Settings and then dump it back to another tape with the captions
preserved. Apparently I'm doing something wrong as the copy has no captions.
Thoughts? Thanks in advance for any insight into what I'm missing.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bob Carroll
> > >
> > > Producer/Director
> > > KVCR-DT (PBS)
> > > 701 S. Mt. Vernon Ave.
> > > San Bernardino, CA 92410
> > > 909-384-4334
> > >
> >
>

This project also has significant amounts of Avid pan&scan work.
Am I hosed and looking at an all weekend, all night re-edit, or is there
some way to save my dumb ass?

I need to get this out to 30I DVCam for air at a local station, and it's
a 60 program.

Thanks
Mark

On 11/6/09 7:07 PM, Mark Myers wrote:
>
>
> Need some help fixing a stupid mistake. Should have realized what was
> going on when I couldn't get a DV signal out of the avid.
>
> Shot major project in DVCam, 30i. Just discovered that like an idiot, I
> created a 23.97P project and did the edit.
>
> Anyone know of a good way to convert? I really don't want to reedit
> visually. I can probably get an edl over through the edl manager, but how
> accurate will this be?
>
> Thanks in advance for helping with my stupidity.
>
> Mark
>
> --
>
> S.R. Productions
> 195 W Broad St
> Salunga PA 17538
> 717-393-5504 / Cell 717-203-0976
>
>

--
Owner/Director
S.R. Film & Video
195 W Broad St
Salunga PA  17538


Cinematography, Still Photography, Copy Writing,
Post Production, Web Hosting & Design

Office: 717-393-5504  ex 142
Cell: 717-203-0976
Fax: 717-393-1833

www.SR-Pro.com <http://www.sr-pro.com/>




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The odd part is that judging by the posts, it actually sounds like Terry has
higher regard for DS than Knut does.

- Oliver

All,

Please don't stereotype the DS Community by letting the words of a few be taken
as representative of the DS Community as a whole.  It is not the 'DS Group' that
is responsible for or condoning any 'personal attacks'.  The DS-List, like the
Avid-L2, consists of dedicated, often overly passionate professionals.  Whatever
the case, please try and leave the 'DS Group' out of it.

Thanks,

-Gus


On Friday, November 06, 2009, at 03:33PM, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...>
wrote:
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Need some help fixing a stupid mistake.  Should have realized what was
going on when I couldn't get a DV signal out of the avid.

Shot major project in DVCam, 30i.  Just discovered that like an idiot, I
created a 23.97P project and did the edit.

Anyone know of a good way to convert?  I really don't want to reedit
visually. I can probably get an edl over through the edl manager, but how
accurate will this be?

Thanks in advance for helping with my stupidity.

Mark





--

S.R. Productions
195 W Broad St
Salunga PA 17538
717-393-5504 / Cell 717-203-0976

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@...> wrote:


<<Terry always changes his argument depending on who he's replying to,
> and he quotes out of context in an expert way that tells me exactly
> what kind of editor he is.>>


      You can ALWAYS count on someone from the DS group to stoop to personal
attacks. Like clockwork.

I just stuffed a QT using DropStuff to a .zip file.  To test it on my edit
computer I clicked on the .zip file and it launched Archive Utility which
unstuffed the file.  Is this Archive Utility standard on Macs?  Still finding
all kind of things now that I'm Mac SNDX.

John Moore

Barking Trout Productions

Studio City, CA

bigfish@...

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Found it in Spam folder, imagine that.

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HTH

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
>
> Clearly you didn't get the memo.  Don't you know it's "Pick on DS and Symphony
Friday"  I'll bet BH is making up the T-shirts right now.  ;-)  Perhaps someone
could suggest the DS list URL where you could post your question.  I use to get
the DS digest but haven't for a while.  Does that mean I need to check my spam
folder or did something change on the list?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Jesstator" <jesstator@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm reposting my question in the hope someone out there had had any
> > success.  I'm not interested in new applications.  I need to use the
> > training version of Avid|DS, and don't want to install it on my Media
> > Composer system.  Aside from bying a new PC (with Vista or Windows 7),
> > my only other option is to install to the FAT32 partition on my MacBook
> > Pro, running the configuration descibed below.   Thanks.   --Jesstator--
> >
> > "Has anyone out there had a chance to sucessfully install ***AND
> > LAUNCH*** the current version of the Avid|DS v10.2 Training Edition
> > software on a MacBook Pro running Windows XP SP-3 under the OSX 10.6.1
> > "Snow Leopard/BootCamp 2.1 configuration? If so, can you confirm the
> > partitioning & networking requirements of such an installation?
> >
> > I have a Media Composer system with a first-generation MOJO standing-by
> > if the MacBook Pro/Boot Camp option isn't viable, yet would like to
> > avoid mixing two Avid editing products on that system. The PDF file for
> > the most recent version of Avid|DS Training Edition(v10. 1.2) indicates
> > the SOFTWARE-ONLY version of Media Composer is compatable. Can anyone
> > confirm this, and whether leaving a first-generation MOJO attached will
> > affect functionality of the DS (or Media Composer) software?"
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Clearly you didn't get the memo.  Don't you know it's "Pick on DS and Symphony
Friday"  I'll bet BH is making up the T-shirts right now.  ;-)  Perhaps someone
could suggest the DS list URL where you could post your question.  I use to get
the DS digest but haven't for a while.  Does that mean I need to check my spam
folder or did something change on the list?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Jesstator" <jesstator@...> wrote:
>
> I'm reposting my question in the hope someone out there had had any
> success.  I'm not interested in new applications.  I need to use the
> training version of Avid|DS, and don't want to install it on my Media
> Composer system.  Aside from bying a new PC (with Vista or Windows 7),
> my only other option is to install to the FAT32 partition on my MacBook
> Pro, running the configuration descibed below.   Thanks.   --Jesstator--
>
> "Has anyone out there had a chance to sucessfully install ***AND
> LAUNCH*** the current version of the Avid|DS v10.2 Training Edition
> software on a MacBook Pro running Windows XP SP-3 under the OSX 10.6.1
> "Snow Leopard/BootCamp 2.1 configuration? If so, can you confirm the
> partitioning & networking requirements of such an installation?
>
> I have a Media Composer system with a first-generation MOJO standing-by
> if the MacBook Pro/Boot Camp option isn't viable, yet would like to
> avoid mixing two Avid editing products on that system. The PDF file for
> the most recent version of Avid|DS Training Edition(v10. 1.2) indicates
> the SOFTWARE-ONLY version of Media Composer is compatable. Can anyone
> confirm this, and whether leaving a first-generation MOJO attached will
> affect functionality of the DS (or Media Composer) software?"
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I asked:

>> is it past alpha/beta stage

Still unclear. Sort of beta, I guess, but working. Need to have the card to
run Rocket Cine-X, from what I understand.

Need a PCI-e x16 physical slot providing at least 8 lanes (x8) and 2048 MB
RAM. Support for OSX 10.5, Win XP2 (Vista to come) or Linux (Red Hat). So
that means no room for that card in my MC-Mojo, as far as I can tell. Would
need another workstation to run it.

MXF files are now supported in RocketCine-X with DNxHD 36-220.  Burn is will
add to the transcode times, but the increase in transcode time is not that
significant.  Processor, Ram and Drive speed will help increase transcode
times, however the RED  Rocket will be doing almost all the work.

>> , and can you use this on daily dailies?

No solid answer so far.

>> Is it shipping, or are you one of the happy few selected to start using this
>> device?

No answers about availability or European shipping times yet.


Determined to share more of this info once I get it, as I'm sure it will
benefit others like me.

--
Job ter Burg
film editor - NL

I'm reposting my question in the hope someone out there had had any
success.  I'm not interested in new applications.  I need to use the
training version of Avid|DS, and don't want to install it on my Media
Composer system.  Aside from bying a new PC (with Vista or Windows 7),
my only other option is to install to the FAT32 partition on my MacBook
Pro, running the configuration descibed below.   Thanks.   --Jesstator--

"Has anyone out there had a chance to sucessfully install ***AND
LAUNCH*** the current version of the Avid|DS v10.2 Training Edition
software on a MacBook Pro running Windows XP SP-3 under the OSX 10.6.1
"Snow Leopard/BootCamp 2.1 configuration? If so, can you confirm the
partitioning & networking requirements of such an installation?

I have a Media Composer system with a first-generation MOJO standing-by
if the MacBook Pro/Boot Camp option isn't viable, yet would like to
avoid mixing two Avid editing products on that system. The PDF file for
the most recent version of Avid|DS Training Edition(v10. 1.2) indicates
the SOFTWARE-ONLY version of Media Composer is compatable. Can anyone
confirm this, and whether leaving a first-generation MOJO attached will
affect functionality of the DS (or Media Composer) software?"


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

No Oliver, that was MY point. Read my first reply on this thread.

Terry's main point is that this will hurt the DS community, read HIS
first post on the thread.

Terry always changes his argument depending on who he's replying to,
and he quotes out of context in an expert way that tells me exactly
what kind of editor he is.

K

On 6. nov. 2009, at 23.16, oliverpetersvidy wrote:

>> Knut A. Helgeland wrote:
>> Oh, and let me add that this does not mean anything good for DS,
>> which
>> is now a horrible toolbox maintained by a few malnourished dwarfs
>> in a
>> cave somewhere outside Bratislava.
>
> Which is Terry's point. Why wouldn't a house prefer an FC Studio +
> Mac Smoke environment over an all-Avid environment if it is so dire?
>
> Or an FC Studio + Quantel combo, which has a lot of attractiveness,
> too. Or in Ian's case - FC Studio + Assimilate  ;-)
>
> - Oliver
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Search the offical complete Avid-L archives at:  
http://archives.bengrosser.com/avid/
>
> Everything you MUST know about Color Correction in one book:  
http://tinyurl.com/ColorCorectionforvideo
>    Get your copy todayYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

On 6. nov. 2009, at 23.39, IAN WILSON wrote:

> What may be more interesting is, does this show the possability that
> we may see MAX 7 on the Mac?

LOL!

K

What may be more interesting is, does this show the possability that
we may see MAX 7 on the Mac?

Ian Wilson
Colortape Productions
Ian@...
0418 327 082
Via iPhone

On 07/11/2009, at 2:44 AM, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:

> You forgot to mention the price.... 15K!
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@...> wrote:
>>
>> "In other news Avid is about to have its high-end business attacked
>> by Autodesk as they are imminently releasing a software only
>> version of Smoke for the Mac with Kona3 for IO. "
>>
>> Picked this up from another Forum.  I have to agree with Knut.  You
>> can do all this now on a Mac wit the software mentioned  Why should
>> an autoscreet product (one with a very steep learning curve...worse
>> than the DS curve that so many MC editors whined about) be any
>> different?  That said, it will be interesting to see if Autoscreet
>> and Apple continue to work more effectively on integration via
>> XML...what I saw at NAB a couple years ago was not very good at all
>> going from FCP to Smoke.
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@> wrote:
>>>
>>> Software Smoke is not going to have the tiniest impact on the DS
>>> community. It will not offer anything that you cannot already do
>>> with
>>> FCP+AE, Fusion, Nuke etc.
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5. nov. 2009, at 17.20, Terence Curren wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ain't gonna sit well in the DS community....
>>>>
>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> oh really Terry?  ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Jesstator" <jesstator@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> << Has anyone out there had a chance to sucessfully install
>>>>>> ***AND
>>>>>> LAUNCH*** the current version of the Avid|DS v10.2 Training
>>>>>> Edition software on a MacBook Pro running Boot Camp v2.1 under
>>>>>> MacOS 10.6.1? >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Me thinks you may have another OSX option for advanced
>>>>>> compositing and finishing in a few weeks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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>
>

Really Knut? What happened? What about Montreal?

> > Knut A. Helgeland wrote:
> > Oh, and let me add that this does not mean anything good for DS,
> which
> > is now a horrible toolbox maintained by a few malnourished dwarfs
> in a
> > cave somewhere outside Bratislava.



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> Knut A. Helgeland wrote:
> Oh, and let me add that this does not mean anything good for DS, which
> is now a horrible toolbox maintained by a few malnourished dwarfs in a
> cave somewhere outside Bratislava.

Which is Terry's point. Why wouldn't a house prefer an FC Studio + Mac Smoke
environment over an all-Avid environment if it is so dire?

Or an FC Studio + Quantel combo, which has a lot of attractiveness, too. Or in
Ian's case - FC Studio + Assimilate  ;-)

- Oliver

On 6. nov. 2009, at 23.05, johnrobmoore wrote:

> Actually Rubin has a stuffed duck at home and it is very life like.
> In fact he uses it to do total conform on most of the Reality shows
> posted in LA.  Have duck will online that's our motto.  ;-)

Foie gras.

K

hi List!

does anyone know where I can get a test image with a 10-bit gradient that
includes 1024 values (ideally across an image 1024px wide)?  I'd like an
image that I can pass trough a pipeline and make sure all 10-bits of color
data are being preserved.

I tried to create this in photoshop, but none of the blending modes create
an image whose code values increase linearly.  Maybe theres an easy way to
do this in photoshop that I don't know about.

Thanks!
-Nat


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Oh, and let me add that this does not mean anything good for DS, which
is now a horrible toolbox maintained by a few malnourished dwarfs in a
cave somewhere outside Bratislava.

K

On 6. nov. 2009, at 23.02, Knut A. Helgeland wrote:

> On 6. nov. 2009, at 20.54, Terence Curren wrote:
>
>>  Actually, unlike the DS groupies, I have never cared what happens
>> to the DS. I just want the Symphony improved.
>
> Fat chance, especially after this announcement. Symph is as dead as a
> stuffed duckling.
>
> K

Actually Rubin has a stuffed duck at home and it is very life like.  In fact he
uses it to do total conform on most of the Reality shows posted in LA.  Have
duck will online that's our motto.  ;-)


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@...> wrote:
>
> On 6. nov. 2009, at 20.54, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> >   Actually, unlike the DS groupies, I have never cared what happens
> > to the DS. I just want the Symphony improved.
>
> Fat chance, especially after this announcement. Symph is as dead as a
> stuffed duckling.
>
> K
>

On 6. nov. 2009, at 20.54, Terence Curren wrote:

>   Actually, unlike the DS groupies, I have never cared what happens
> to the DS. I just want the Symphony improved.

Fat chance, especially after this announcement. Symph is as dead as a
stuffed duckling.

K

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@...> wrote:


<<and I want the Symphony killed>>

      That's the difference between us. You want my preferred tool killed. I
don't care about your preferred tool and have never wished to see it dead.

and I want the Symphony killed and merged with MC...ying and yang

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "switthaus" <switthaus@> wrote:
>
>
> <<this is not the DS killer you long for!  :-)>>
>
>
>      Actually, unlike the DS groupies, I have never cared what happens to the
DS. I just want the Symphony improved.
>

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Richard Tibbetts <huipro@...> wrote:


<<Hey people, Let's all chip in and buy Terry a shirt w/ a collar.>>

      Somehow, I knew deep down inside that I shouldn't post that link....