Dave,

I have always enjoyed the sense of humour and wide ranging topics from
Terry and other members of the L2. There are other forums on Avid
related topics which are rather tightly wound. Some of which do have
so-called policies on who gets to talk.

Of late the OT: (off topic) designation has been left off of posts a bit
more often than I might like on a busy day or week. However many of
those posts are part of the charm of the original L and the L2. The L
and the BBS preceding the L has not just been a place to get solid
information on Avids but a place to get that 30" second refresher
especially for those of us who no longer smoke and who either choose not
to keep a bottle in the bottom of the desk or work in places where it is
no longer considered acceptable to do so.

For some of us it is also an outlet for frustration. Maybe not the best
place but certainly a better alternative than going postal. I know there
have been posts I have made over the years where I regretted not adding
a smiley face or even posting at all. I thank all the members of the L
for reading between the lines on those posts and putting up with my
prattle over the years. At any given time I try to read between the
lines on the posts from my colleagues and comrades here if my patience
allows. Everyone has off days, weeks, months and sometimes years. The L
is an outlet for humour and frustration as well as a place of solid
technical information, workflow, inspiration and non-political,
non-religious ideas.

The last resort which I have only exercised extremely rarely (and not
since the L2 began) is to add a filter to my mail which sends postings
from particular people straight to the trash. The ultimate solution to
irritation.


DD

Dave Hogan wrote:
>
>
> Hey, what's the deal? I have often seen you make snide remarks about
> posts that discuss actual AVID issues. Have I ticked you off in some way?
>
> I have also often heard comments off line about how people don't want
> to participate in querries or discussions on this list because some in
> the group are so quick to criticize or make personal attacks.
>
> I don't care so much, I've learned to get a pretty thick skin over the
> years, but I feel that in general the environment here fails to
> lending itself to open discussion. Maybe I didn't get the memo on who
> gets to talk and who doesn't.
>
> I also don't get why this group likes to have literally hundreds of
> discussions on food and puppies, as opposed to experiences with using
> the AVID products, or ideas about workflow. I realize some questions
> seem ill formed or silly to those of us that have been editing for
> decades, but it wouldn't hurt for any of us to show a bit more patience.
>
> Have a nice weekend...
>
> Dave Hogan
> Burbank, CA
>
> ________________________________
> From: Terence Curren <tcurren@... <mailto:tcurren%40aol.com>>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 11:37:38 PM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Taming EDL Manager, was: Urgent - 23.97 to 30I More
>
> Also, don't forget to:
>
> Draw a pentagram in the dirt by hand.
>
> Under the light of the moon, sacrifice a live chicken.
>
> Rotate counter clockwise three times while chanting "kcus nac
> ygolonhcet" a being ever so careful not to STEP OUTSIDE the pentagram.
>
> And maybe it will work...
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, Dave Hogan <mactvman@.. .> wrote:
> >
> > A few suggestions to tame the beast that is EDL Manager:
> >
> > 1) Turn off Optimize EDL.
> >
> > 2) Turn on "Show Dissolves as Cuts" "Show Audio Dissolves as Cuts"
> and "Show Wipes as Cuts"
> >
> >
> > 3) Promote motion effects to timewarps, or remove them all together.
> >
> > 4) Instead of clicking on the arrow buttons in the EDL window, use
> the menu commands for "Get Current Sequence" (command-G or ctrl-G) and
> "Create Composer Sequence" (Command-M or ctrl-M).
> >
> > 5) Re-name reels to 8 characters or less before you create EDL, and
> use CMX3600 as your EDL format, because it allows up to 8 character
> alphanumeric reel names, and many tracks of audio.
> >
> > 6) Check that you have valid TC in the Source TC format you have
> chosen, and it matches the frame rate of the Rec TC in the EDL Manager
> window.
> >
> > Another gotcha is that when people upgrade the Editor (Media
> Composer, Symphony) they often forget to upgrade the version of EDL
> Manager. Re-Install EDL Manager from the same version diskor download
> as your edit software.
> >
> > Each of the above has caused EDL manager to crash on me at one time
> or another, on various versions of the software. I don't suggest doing
> all of them at once, just try each to see if EDL Manager stops crashing.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Dave Hogan
> > Burbank, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Mark Myers <MarkM@...>
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com
> > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:18:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Urgent - 23.97 to 30I More
> >
> >
> > Can't get an EDL exported. I keep getting errors in the EDL manager.
> >
> > On 11/6/09 7:47 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm confused, was your original source 23.98 on a 29.97 frame
> tape? If
> > > so, and you followed the proper cadence, then you actually have a
> > > proper 23.98 master. If you have access to a Symphony you can output
> > > it as a 30 frame conversion without any problems.
> > >
> > > If your sources were not 23.98, how come you didn't notice them being
> > > herky jerky in the movement?
> > >
> > > Next option is to go the EDL route. You will lose effects, titles,
> > > etc. But all of your shots will be there and motion effects and
> > > dissolves should be there for the most part. I have to admit, I've
> > > never gone in the 23.98 to 30 direction via edl before. Just follow
> > > Michael Philips' directions in reverse.
> > >
> > > http://24p.com/ 30_24.htm <http://24p.com/ 30_24.htm>
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>,
> > > Mark Myers <MarkM@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This project also has significant amounts of Avid pan&scan work.
> > > > Am I hosed and looking at an all weekend, all night re-edit, or is
> > > there
> > > > some way to save my dumb ass?
> > > >
> > > > I need to get this out to 30I DVCam for air at a local station, and
> > > it's
> > > > a 60 program.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > On 11/6/09 7:07 PM, Mark Myers wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Need some help fixing a stupid mistake. Should have realized
> what was
> > > > > going on when I couldn't get a DV signal out of the avid.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shot major project in DVCam, 30i. Just discovered that like an
> > > idiot, I
> > > > > created a 23.97P project and did the edit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone know of a good way to convert? I really don't want to
> reedit
> > > > > visually. I can probably get an edl over through the edl manager,
> > > but how
> > > > > accurate will this be?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance for helping with my stupidity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
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