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Taming EDL Manager, was: Urgent - 23.97 to 30I More

A few suggestions to tame the beast that is EDL Manager:

1) Turn off Optimize EDL.

2) Turn on "Show Dissolves as Cuts" "Show Audio Dissolves as Cuts" and "Show
Wipes as Cuts"


3) Promote motion effects to timewarps, or remove them all together.

4) Instead of clicking on the arrow buttons in the EDL window, use the menu
commands for "Get Current Sequence" (command-G or ctrl-G) and "Create Composer
Sequence" (Command-M or ctrl-M).

5) Re-name reels to 8 characters or less before you create EDL, and use CMX3600
as your EDL format, because it allows up to 8 character alphanumeric reel names,
and many tracks of audio.

6) Check that you have valid TC in the Source TC format you have chosen, and it
matches the frame rate of the Rec TC in the EDL Manager window.

Another gotcha is that when people upgrade the Editor (Media Composer,
Symphony) they often forget to upgrade the version of EDL Manager. Re-Install
EDL Manager from the same version diskor download as your edit software.

Each of the above has caused EDL manager to crash on me at one time or another,
on various versions of the software. I don't suggest doing all of them at once,
just try each to see if EDL Manager stops crashing.

Hope this helps,

Dave Hogan
Burbank, CA




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From: Mark Myers <MarkM@...>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:18:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Urgent - 23.97 to 30I More


Can't get an EDL exported. I keep getting errors in the EDL manager.

On 11/6/09 7:47 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> I'm confused, was your original source 23.98 on a 29.97 frame tape? If
> so, and you followed the proper cadence, then you actually have a
> proper 23.98 master. If you have access to a Symphony you can output
> it as a 30 frame conversion without any problems.
>
> If your sources were not 23.98, how come you didn't notice them being
> herky jerky in the movement?
>
> Next option is to go the EDL route. You will lose effects, titles,
> etc. But all of your shots will be there and motion effects and
> dissolves should be there for the most part. I have to admit, I've
> never gone in the 23.98 to 30 direction via edl before. Just follow
> Michael Philips' directions in reverse.
>
> http://24p.com/ 30_24.htm <http://24p.com/ 30_24.htm>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com <mailto:Avid- L2%40yahoogroups .com>,
> Mark Myers <MarkM@...> wrote:
> >
> > This project also has significant amounts of Avid pan&scan work.
> > Am I hosed and looking at an all weekend, all night re-edit, or is
> there
> > some way to save my dumb ass?
> >
> > I need to get this out to 30I DVCam for air at a local station, and
> it's
> > a 60 program.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mark
> >
> > On 11/6/09 7:07 PM, Mark Myers wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Need some help fixing a stupid mistake. Should have realized what was
> > > going on when I couldn't get a DV signal out of the avid.
> > >
> > > Shot major project in DVCam, 30i. Just discovered that like an
> idiot, I
> > > created a 23.97P project and did the edit.
> > >
> > > Anyone know of a good way to convert? I really don't want to reedit
> > > visually. I can probably get an edl over through the edl manager,
> but how
> > > accurate will this be?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for helping with my stupidity.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Salunga PA 17538
> > > 717-393-5504 / Cell 717-203-0976
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Owner/Director
> > S.R. Film & Video
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> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Office: 717-393-5504 ex 142
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A few suggestions to tame the beast that is EDL Manager: 1) Turn off Optimize EDL. 2) Turn on "Show Dissolves as Cuts" "Show Audio Dissolves as Cuts" and "Show...
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Already done, but my neighbor is pissed off about his chicken. It was close to a full moon last night so that should have helped. The issue seems to be all...
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Isn't one of the new wonderments of Avid 4.0. the ability to throw the 23.98 timeline onto a 29.97 sequence and then modify so the effects will translate. I...
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Sorry for the rebroadcast of something already suggested. I was just catching up on the thread. But since I'm here funny thing happened at the dog park this...
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Hi John - No problem, I'm just thankful for all the help. Michael and Terry both have the sequence, but it seems that I'm hosed. The problem is that the source...
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I had a similar issue on a 23.98 HD conform where I switched to 23.98 NTSC to capture an entire movie at SD low rez to eye match to get the accurate 24 source...
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Mark, I got the EDL to work in 4.0. It is worth loading it on your spare Mac as you can easily bring stuff in that way. Here is what I did. Modified a copy of...
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Wow - I'm glad you have this kind time on a Saturday. Didn't get the file. You might want to resend it again. Thanks Mark ... -- Owner/Director S.R. Film &...
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Wow nice work! I think even I owe you a Chicken for your trouble. Good stuff....
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Terry - As the "Man in Black" said to Vizinni - truly you have a dizzying intellect... It works! Now I just have to get 4.0 installed on a system. Tried to...
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... <<It works!>> Now you want to know how to do it in FCP? Copy everything in your 23.98 sequence, then paste it in a 29.97 sequence. Done....
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