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Expert Decompose based upon resolution, was: Re: MC 4 upgrades

Interesting approach but I find it faster to show ref clips and sort by res then
dump the undesired media then decompose. Relinking is prone to subtle issues in
this new file based work flows. Relinking is both science and a bit of art.
I've found that with adoption of editing offline with full rez file based
material the AEs inaccuracies don't show up till you try to relink. Only then
do you find duplicate tape names etc... These errors would have shown up in a
tape work flow during recapture but now they are masked until you relink and the
sequence grabs the first instance of tape and time code it can find, which may
or may not be the right shot. This usually is a by product of the addition of a
tape name after the fact.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dave Hogan <mactvman@...> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> You know, with a few steps via the relink tool Media Composer has had the
capability for a while now to decompose based upon resolution of the files.
>
> 1st step, start with a relink and select the method of "Specific Resolution"
it will look for everything equal or better than the video rez you specify.
Also make sure "Unlink Lower Quality Media" is checked, and "Create New
Sequence" is checked (or relink a copy of the original sequence).
>
> A caveat here is that the re-link always unlinks all title media, and may
unlink imported effects. This is not a deal breaker, because you get it back in
a later step.
>
> The relink throws all the lower rez media off line, and then you decompose the
new sequence, selecting "Offline Media Only" and "Captured Clips Only".
>
> After you have digitized all the decomposed clips, go back and do a final
relink, using "highest quality" and those pesky files that were not tape
sources, and were the correct rez or better, will come back online without
having to recreate title media or re-import.
>
> This capability has been around for a long time. My Media Composer 2.8.4 has
it. It is in 3.x, and I sure hope it is still in 4.x.
>
> Going via the relink step also picks up higher rez files that might already be
digitized (in a shared environment, or something done a while back), so that you
don't have to re-digitize footage already on the system.
>
> I have heard some editors complain about using relink, but the only time I
have trouble with it is when I exceed 1,500 files per folder on my drives (unity
included). I have had several techs try to tell me that systems can handle a
far larger count than this, but I stand by that number to this day. (Possibly
because I work mostly on Mac based AVIDs, and the OSX finder is a slow beast
with lots of files). Hope this filecount can go up a bit once Snow Leopard gets
certified, but I will wait and see on that one.
>
> Dave Hogan
> Burbank CA
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: johnrobmoore <bigfish@...>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, September 24, 2009 11:12:25 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: MC 4 upgrades
>
>
> I like my version better but this is still nice. Say I've got a mixture of
offline and online resolution material. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to
decompose only the low res stuff leaving the full res alone? Maybe down the
line something like this could be added?
>
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This is not a moan but a simple question. On the UK Avid website, MC 4.0 is offered as a new purchase as a boxed set (inc Prod Suite) or a download (without...
Roger Shufflebottom
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Sep 24, 2009
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Roger, from what Marianna confirmed, that is correct, only a boxed set for the Xpress to MC upgrade. No download. Raj On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Roger...
Raj Rodrigues
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Sep 24, 2009
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From the MC 4 ReadMe a couple of things that seem to have passed under the radar: 100 undos (sounds like a punk band) and Expert Decompose. Good stuff. +++ ...
Roger Shufflebottom
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Sep 24, 2009
2:38 pm

Thanks for that Roger. 100 Undos I get (I wonder if there is any performance hit as I've been told is the case in FCP with a high undo value), but I'm curious...
Benjamin Hershleder
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Sep 24, 2009
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If it's like Expert Render, it'll do something different each time. Lots of undos take up lots of ram. Now everything going 64 bit, that's not really a...
Rick
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Sep 24, 2009
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Not tried it (just downloaded) but I think it is almost the long-requested 'decompose only if . . .' feature. Looks like you can decompose and then selectively...
Roger Shufflebottom
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Sep 24, 2009
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Would this be something like decompose only the clips that are offline resolution.? Leaving media of the online resolution alone and creating new clips for...
johnrobmoore
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Sep 24, 2009
5:08 pm

Expert Decompose lets you select by tape or clip name and the target format for those clips prior to doing the decompose. So you could just select tape number...
Terence Curren
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Sep 24, 2009
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That's a great new feature. Congrats to Avid's codemonkeys. But where is the marketing department? My guess is that they couldn't see this new feature because...
Steve Hullfish
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Sep 24, 2009
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I like my version better but this is still nice. Say I've got a mixture of offline and online resolution material. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to...
johnrobmoore
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Sep 24, 2009
6:13 pm

That is a long-standing request. I'm hoping that this new 'Expert Decompose' will do that. Maybe not - I'll try later. ... With best wishes, Roger...
Roger Shufflebottom
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Sep 24, 2009
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John, You know, with a few steps via the relink tool Media Composer has had the capability for a while now to decompose based upon resolution of the files. 1st...
Dave Hogan
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Nov 4, 2009
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Interesting approach but I find it faster to show ref clips and sort by res then dump the undesired media then decompose. Relinking is prone to subtle issues...
johnrobmoore
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Nov 4, 2009
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I agree that relinking sometimes seems like more art than science. However, it is not always an option to throw away all your offline media before doing...
Dave Hogan
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Nov 5, 2009
12:41 pm

I've been burned too many times having access to offline and online media at the same time. The Avid occasionally burps and decides to relink on it's own for...
johnrobmoore
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Nov 5, 2009
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My preference (SANs Unity to throw a Canadian pun in) has always been separate drives for on-line and off-line media. Removing either combination of drives...
David Dawkins
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Nov 5, 2009
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You had to use belt and suspenders analogy? Last suit I bought the seamstress suggested suspenders, not for fashion's sake, but because my belt didn't...
johnrobmoore
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Nov 5, 2009
8:57 pm

Sounds intriguing... Thanks again Roger. I'll say again: It would be great (on so many levels) if there was a What's New in 4.0 page on the Avid site that had...
Benjamin Hershleder
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Sep 24, 2009
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There is a good document up there - as usual it is hard to track down. Do a search (but even if you think you are using a software only version, choose 'All'...
Roger Shufflebottom
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Sep 24, 2009
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Here's the What's New in MC4: http://snipurl.com/s3l31...
pleasecallmebob
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Sep 24, 2009
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I would assume that the undos get written to a stack at some point, rather than being entirely in memory, but who's to say (ok, Michele probably knows, but who...
Greg Huson
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Sep 24, 2009
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What's new with the Color corrector in 4.0? I hear is been enhanced? And about the new DNxHD codec... I hear if you have old versions of MC you cannot play...
Mathew Sherman
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Sep 24, 2009
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Well, you get a list of clips with the resolution used when first captured - sortable, so you could choose a bunch of clips at a res of your choice. Can't use...
Roger Shufflebottom
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Sep 24, 2009
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From the context menu in the Expert Decompose dialog you can sort columns (name, resolution, etc), then you can shift-select multiple rows, and then from the...
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Sep 24, 2009
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Aha! Thank you Tina. ... +++ With best wishes, Roger Shufflebottom Avid Certified Instructor http://www.bottom-line.tv Tel: +44 1992 535 031 (UK) Mobile: +44...
Roger Shufflebottom
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We are going to be posting a number of patches in the next few days both to the QuickTime codecs (AvidCodecPE) as well as codecs for previous releases of MC...
Michel Rynderman
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